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    LEAKED U.S. ARMY DOCUMENT OUTLINES PLANS FOR RE-EDUCATION CAMPS IN AMERICA

    http://publicintelligence.net/restri...ations-manual/

    http://info.publicintelligence.net/U...settlement.pdf

    Army copy of the document
    http://armypubs.army.mil/doctrine/active_fm.html go to 3-39.40

    Here is the OFFICIAL US army page on 31E

    http://www.goarmy.com/careers-and-jo...pecialist.html

    In 2009, the National Guard posted a number of job opportunities looking for “Internment/Resettlement Specialists” to work in “civilian internee camps” within the United States.

    http://publicintelligence.net/nation...t-specialists/


    In December last year it was also revealed that Halliburton subsidiary KBR is seeking sub-contractors to staff and outfit “emergency environment” camps located in five regions of the United States.

    http://www.prisonplanet.com/detentio...il-unrest.html


    In 2006, KBR was contracted by Homeland Security to build detention centers designed to deal with “an emergency influx of immigrants into the U.S,” or the rapid development of unspecified “new programs” that would require large numbers of people to be interned.

    http://www.marketwatch.com/story/kbr...rth-up-to-385m

    Rex 84, short for Readiness Exercise 1984, was established under the pretext of a “mass exodus” of illegal aliens crossing the Mexican/US border, the same pretense used in the language of the KBR request for services.

    During the Iran-Contra hearings in 1987, however, it was revealed that the program was a secretive “scenario and drill” developed by the federal government to suspend the Constitution, declare martial law, assign military commanders to take over state and local governments, and detain large numbers of American citizens determined by the government to be “national security threats.”

    Under the indefinite detention provision of the National Defense Authorization Act, which was signed by Barack Obama on New Year’s Eve, American citizens can be kidnapped and detained indefinitely without trial.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisf...erican-liberty


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    http://rt.com/usa/news/psyop-activis...ettlement-526/


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    Well we are fucked.
    Is this resistance or a costume party?
    Either way I think black with bandanas is a boring theme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by milkmiku View Post
    During the Iran-Contra hearings in 1987, however, it was revealed that the program was a secretive “scenario and drill” developed by the federal government to suspend the Constitution, declare martial law, assign military commanders to take over state and local governments, and detain large numbers of American citizens determined by the government to be “national security threats.”
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    How could we of ever guessed that our "free" country would oneday be throwing us in camps?

    Oh yeah everything history has ever told us.

    I need to do more reading on this, I really hope your wrong.
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    See you there!

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    Alex Jones is not credible.

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    It's like a commie summer camp!
    Is this resistance or a costume party?
    Either way I think black with bandanas is a boring theme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zeekloid View Post
    Alex Jones is not credible.
    I always wonder if these kind of persons just make shit up or actually believe what they are saying themselves.
    Is this resistance or a costume party?
    Either way I think black with bandanas is a boring theme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zeekloid View Post
    the sources are not credible.

    Public Intelligence is a credible source. A nice note is that itwas leaded, then suddenly become public a few days afterwords.

    Army copy of the document
    http://armypubs.army.mil/doctrine/active_fm.html go to 3-39.40

    Here is the OFFICIAL US army page on 31E

    http://www.goarmy.com/careers-and-jo...pecialist.html

    NDAA is also 100% true


    The only uncredited source is prison planet and maybe Guardian, I'll give you that, but this is real. This really exist.

    So we have a document detailing this and a new MOS just for it. Both official.

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    I wouldn't take anything on websites such as 'prison planet' seriously let alone bourgeois liberal ones.

    Let's be honest the state does what it likes, it pays lip service to bourgeois law etc but subverts it when it likes when not running up against it as a contradiction within capitalism...furthermore bourgeois democracy doesn't stand still, but is forced to accommodate capital, therefore periodically turning to authoritarian measures.
    Down with the Mao Tse-tung/Pepsi Cola/Billy Graham axis!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SHORAS View Post
    I wouldn't take anything on websites such as 'prison planet' seriously let alone bourgeois liberal ones.

    Let's be honest the state does what it likes, it pays lip service to bourgeois law etc but subverts it when it likes when not running up against it as a contradiction within capitalism...furthermore bourgeois democracy doesn't stand still, but is forced to accommodate capital, therefore periodically turning to authoritarian measures.

    Market Watch link backs up Jonesy Halliburton claim.

    NDAA is official.
    I've linked to the Army pub of the doc and the Army MOS.

    I suppose I'll avoid PP from now on, since people automatically disregard all other links as soon as they see that. I find him so dreamy though!

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    Oh, c'mon, skeptics! Believe it for a second! It'll make you feel like we on Revleft actually accomplish something with our everyday tendency squabbles and Lenin-Stalin-Mao-Trotsky-Hoxha babble! "The man" thinks we're threatening!!!

    They're gonna drag us away from our homes as we claw the ground with our fingernails! The communist colour will spill forth from our hands and soak the earth! Behind electric fences they will squash our cries of, "Workers of the world, unite!" and we'll slowly be brainwashed into loving our bourgie captors. They will force us to sit in well-furnished parlour rooms til we actually enjoy the fine imported teas they serve us in silver and gold services. We will be baptised into some sect of Protestantism and learn to love our president as we love ourselves!

    Oh, the horror, the horror! And it's all because we're so important a threat to the United States!






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    Quote Originally Posted by Young Pioneer Liza View Post
    They will force us to sit in well-furnished parlour rooms til we actually enjoy the fine imported teas they serve us in silver and gold services.

    Hey! I like fine imported teas! And Parlor rooms are cool shit!

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    If this true I am jealous! Would be fun to hang out with the gang on an expenses paid break on the system... it is the only way I'd likely have a holiday anytime soon!
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    Quote Originally Posted by milkmiku View Post
    LEAKED U.S. ARMY DOCUMENT OUTLINES PLANS FOR RE-EDUCATION CAMPS IN AMERICA

    http://publicintelligence.net/restri...ations-manual/

    http://info.publicintelligence.net/U...settlement.pdf
    Have you read these documents? I don't seem to see anything indicating these are concerning themselves with domestic operations, but what they're doing in foreign warzones like Afghanistan. EX the internment camps like Bagram where they torture people, and how the occupation forces are "supposed to" deal with civilians displaced from areas they've bombed the hell out of.

    It also, towards the second half the document, appear to deal with soldiers who have infringed somehow on the military regulations.

    It also seems this was from a document in 2010 (before these detainment procedures in the recent NDAA was even instituted). Even if I was to humor the possibility that the language was vague enough to do what they wanted where ever they could feasibly declare a war-zone domestically and use this, it brings up the question of why this hasn't been utilized before.

    In 2009, the National Guard posted a number of job opportunities looking for “Internment/Resettlement Specialists” to work in “civilian internee camps” within the United States.

    http://publicintelligence.net/nation...t-specialists/
    Again, where does it say in the US? Straight from the website itself seems to indicate these are being done in warzones, judging from pictures of prisoners looking like Afghan detainees and imprisoned soldiers in fatigues.

    In December last year it was also revealed that Halliburton subsidiary KBR is seeking sub-contractors to staff and outfit “emergency environment” camps located in five regions of the United States.

    http://www.prisonplanet.com/detentio...il-unrest.html
    Prison Planet. Anyways, looking at the article I don't see how this relates to the original document beyond pointing out that the domestic security apparatus is taking signs of protests as potential problems- this is well-known. Not sure I share the writer's perspective on this persecution of "white middle class Americans" though

    If anything minorities like myself have more to worry about these things than joe six pack.

    In 2006, KBR was contracted by Homeland Security to build detention centers designed to deal with “an emergency influx of immigrants into the U.S,” or the rapid development of unspecified “new programs” that would require large numbers of people to be interned.

    http://www.marketwatch.com/story/kbr...rth-up-to-385m
    And? I still don't see how this would be a "massive" internal camp system of subversives. If anything this reflects more the inhumane means they are dealing with "immigration" and what lengths they are going to preserve the current power structure.

    Rex 84, short for Readiness Exercise 1984, was established under the pretext of a “mass exodus” of illegal aliens crossing the Mexican/US border, the same pretense used in the language of the KBR request for services.

    During the Iran-Contra hearings in 1987, however, it was revealed that the program was a secretive “scenario and drill” developed by the federal government to suspend the Constitution, declare martial law, assign military commanders to take over state and local governments, and detain large numbers of American citizens determined by the government to be “national security threats.”
    Yes, this is well known. How is that enabled by this particular piece of regulation though? Even if we were to take the position that the language in the document was vague enough to apply to domestic concerns, why did they take over 25 years to do this? I don't really think it was suddenly enabled by this.

    If the government wanted to come down on your ass, I'm pretty sure they've already had the power to do that for decades now. It's not just suddenly come around. We saw that enough with the detainment of Japanese-Americans in WW II.

    This isn't the smoking gun to show that there is an ongoing plan to this end. If anything this is relying on a different reading of a training manual.

    Under the indefinite detention provision of the National Defense Authorization Act, which was signed by Barack Obama on New Year’s Eve, American citizens can be kidnapped and detained indefinitely without trial.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisf...erican-liberty
    Yes, we're aware of this. However I'm still not seeing how a manual for people working in torture camps like Bagram apply to this cabal to make internal detainment camps in the US. As far as I can tell what this is a manual for how to run such camps in Afghanistan, including what sorts of PSYOPS they are using (loudspeakers, preventing formation of political groups among detainees, propaganda, etc.).

    They focus on the Psyops deal I referred to earlier. Again though, this is a camp manual. Even in the first bullets under Psyops,

    -Introduces detainees or DCs to U.S. and multinational policy.

    "Multinational policy" should tell you enough. That's basically the blanket term for the NATO force in Afghanistan.

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    Everytime I see a "leftist" cite Alex Jones/infowars and Prison Planet, I cringe.

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    Red Commissar basically hit the nail on the head. the only time that the US has ever used internment camps domestically has been during world war II to intern Japanese. why would internment camps for political subversives be instituted right now?

    though, illegal immigrants are held in brutal facilities now.

    this is an example of the frequent leftist, libertarian, and conspiracy theorist attitude of having an irrational fear of a coming 1984-esque government instead of paying attention to things that are real.

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    This is stupid. None of these camps will be in Alaska, thus this is not real.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Comrade Commistar View Post
    This is stupid. None of these camps will be in Alaska, thus this is not real.
    Yeah, Alaska is americas Siberia,
    how hard can it be to make a proper camp?
    Is this resistance or a costume party?
    Either way I think black with bandanas is a boring theme.

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    For those of you of the "but but not in America"

    It is for America as well. Check Page 193 section 10-40 of
    http://www.anonym.to/?http://info.pu...settlement.pdf


    "MILITARY POLICE SUPPORT TO RESETTLEMENT OPERATIONS
    10-40. Resettlement operations typically include controlling civilian movement and providing relief to
    human suffering. These operations may be performed as domestic civil support operations (due to natural
    or man-made disasters), stability operations (due to noncombatant evacuation operations, humanitarianassistance
    operations), or DC operations (due to combat operations). The authority to approve resettlement
    such operations within U.S. territories is at the Secretary of Defense level and may require a special
    exception to Title 18, USC (Posse Comitatus Act). The Posse Comitatus Act prohibits the U.S. military
    from enforcing civilian laws within the United States or its territories without specific authorization. The
    U.S. Constitution and other federal, state, and local laws may directly and significantly affect operations in
    the U.S. and its territories if the enforcement of civilian laws are required according to Title 10, USC. U.S.
    military forces conducting law enforcement functions in such cases require an authorization through a
    congressional act (for example, Title 10 USC, Sections 331 through 334 [Insurrection Statues]) or a
    constitutional authorization (for example the President invoking his executive authority under Article 2 of
    the Constitution). U.S. Army National Guard Soldiers operating in a nonfederal status are not restricted by
    the Posse Comitatus Act. (See Title 32, USC, and JP 3-28.)"

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