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    Quote Originally Posted by Must - Crush - Capitalism View Post
    I quite like genuine socialist realist art that shows everyday proletarian life and that kind of thing, but I'm not really a fan of art that glorifies individuals. The cult of personality that existed in the USSR in Joseph Stalin's time was a problem.
    I think that a problem with all political artwork, Anarchist artwork can be and is just as bad as marxist leninist socialist realism.

    That why it hard to do political artwork in General.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fabian View Post
    Are you stupid or what? I know posters are not socialist realism, I asked if someone knows what style are they.
    I believe the posters you posted were earlier Constructivist influenced art from the 1920s, before socialist realism became the official art form of the Soviet Union.

    There can be no "official" culture of the working class. the art and culture of all times and epochs-from ancient Babylon, to Lady Murasaki, to Shakespeare, to Bach, to the Kama Sutra are the heritage of the global working class.

    Much "socialist realist" poster and painting is kitsch.There was and is a fair amount of this in the US-Norman Rockwell, Thomas Hart Benton were the US versions.Neither country produced deep SR visual art. How many cheesy pictures of Stalin or Mao or Hoxha or Kim or "average Americans of all creeds and colors" saying the "Pledge of Allegiance" or having "Thanksgiving dinner" can one take before the meme dries up?

    I feel true art can't be contained, its subversive by definition.Freedom defined is freedom denied, as they say.

    The "heroic" SR statues in Russia and China are just silly, in my opinion.

    Its more difficult to be reductionist in other art mediums.

    SR architecture is more interesting. The "Stalin gothic" buildings in Moscow are interesting,as is the Moscow subway. There is a fair amount of this in the US-WPA buildings from the 1930s are American SR.

    I'm not as familiar with SR novels. All Quiet Flows The Don" by Mikhail Sholokhov is SR (I think)and this is a great book and film.
    To love. To be loved. To never forget your own insignificance. To never get used to the unspeakable violence and the vulgar disparity of life around you. To seek joy in the saddest places. To pursue beauty to its lair. To never simplify what is complicated or complicate what is simple. To respect strength, never power. Above all, to watch. To try and understand. To never look away. And never, never, to forget

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    I personally like socialist realism. That being said, the only requirement for socialist art of any kind is that it depicts the human experience honestly and with an awareness of the historically determined development of society.
    To wait until the toiling classes bring about a revolution on an international scale means that everybody should stand stock-still in expectation. That is nonsense.

    V.I. Lenin, May 14, 1918.

    ... [T]he relations of production must necessarily conform with the character of the productive forces ...

    I.V. Stalin, Economic Problems of Socialism in the U.S.S.R., 1951.

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    Holy shit. I like what I like, you like what you like. How has this gone beyond that?
    I see good points in nearly all sections of the socialist left.
    I am in love with all Anarchists.
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    Giant big fuck-off statues off hero-Stalin and demanding that people admire them is going to do that for you.

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    I don't like Lenin, and I don't like Stalin... But I do like high-contrast realistic art. Especially with lots of pretty lighting and shadowing.

    One of my favorite paintings has already been posted but here is another:



    And I like many of the statues and what not.

    Regardless of what it stood for in the past; what does it say to me in the present?
    (I work in a factory with the commodities these people are making, and I like the romanticized view of where my steel came from)
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