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    Quote Originally Posted by the zizekian View Post
    [FONT=Cambria]Quebec offers to stretch tuition hike over 7 years[/FONT]

    [FONT=Cambria]But student groups say hike will still be a burden[/FONT]

    [FONT=Times New Roman][FONT=Times New Roman]CBC News[/FONT][/FONT]

    [FONT=Cambria]Last Updated: Apr 27, 2012 5:03 PM ET[/FONT]


    [FONT=Calibri]http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/story/2012/04/27/montreal-student-protests-quebec.html?cmp=rss[/FONT]
    [FONT=Times New Roman]CLASSE rejects government offer as other student groups suggest mediation[/FONT]
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    [FONT=Times New Roman]By Karen Seidman, Gazette Universities Reporter April 30, 2012 7:22 AM[/FONT]
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    [FONT=Calibri]http://www.montrealgazette.com/news/CLASSE+rejects+government+offer/6537609/story.html[/FONT]
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    http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/a...-montreal?bn=1

    Quote Originally Posted by Toronto Star
    On a number of occasions in recent days, student protesters have in fact made clear their impatience with the masked vandals in their midst; they have delivered admonitions and Bronx cheers at demonstrations whenever the minority in the crowd starts causing damage. On Tuesday, at a formal news conference, people in masks were suddenly shouting back.

    The government is of course doing everything they can to exploit this "division" in the ranks of the protesters...
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    [FONT=Times New Roman]More than 100 arrests in Montreal May Day riot[/FONT]
    [FONT=Times New Roman]2,000 people march through the streets[/FONT]
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    [FONT=Times New Roman]Last Updated: May 2, 2012 12:29 AM ET [/FONT]
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    I saw that awful "No! It's a boycott!" bullshit pop up again in this thread, so Ima repost this sweet pamphlet. <3

    YES, THIS IS A STRIKE.
    On the picket lines, I’ve heard the same numb recitation of “This isn’t even a strike, it’s a boycott!” repeated like a mantra, absolving one of responsibility for crossing a picket line. It seems as though disparagingly few students have taken the time to critically assess the assumptions underlying this discourse – speaking to a sad state of affairs in the university more generally. A boycott concerns consumption, and a strike production; consequently these readings represent opposing understandings of not only students and the university, but of knowledge itself.

    To refer to a boycott, essentially, is to refer to students as consumers, and knowledge as a commodity that is passively consumed as a finished product. Within the idea of the boycott is the assumption that the student exchanges their tuition for a fixed body of knowledge, which is then their property.

    Ironically, this runs counter to the idea, oft referred to by the same academic hacks, that university is an “investment” in knowledge-capital. For knowledge to produce value, as capital, it must be acted upon by labour – it must pass from its abstract existence and be transformed qualitatively. This process, for obvious reasons, is directly dependent on the concrete work of the student. In the course of their studies, students create a body of usable knowledge and social capital from which the university profits – when students stop going to class, this transformation of knowledge is interrupted. In other words, yes, it is a strike.

    Disturbingly, foundational to all of this is the notion that knowledge exists, fundamentally, within the logic of the marketplace. It is implicit that knowledge serves first and foremost, a role within the reproduction of capital. While free market fundamentalists might argue that the interests of capital serve the greatest possible good, one might hope that university students are not so intellectually stunted. In any case, a little bit of thought should reveal the obvious, that knowledge is not a fixed quantity, and does not diminish when it is shared. On the contrary, knowledge tends toward the common, increasing as it is passed between us. In fact, it is only because of this that the university as a site of social production is even possible.

    Tuition hikes mean a further erosion of this commons, an increasing commodification of knowledge, its increasing transformation into capital, and its increasing monopolization by the capitalist class. It is with the student strike, the disruption of this process, that we stand to reappropriate knowledge by and for the commons. What is at stake in tuition hikes is not only the exclusion of particular individuals from the university – it is a battle in the larger context of “austerity” wherein the capitalist Moloch, having inevitably run up against the limits of capital accumulation elsewhere, is now turning on us to fuel its fires. As workers rise up and strike across the world, students’ actions here are contextualized by global struggle. Boycott? No. A strike, as in, “striking a blow”. In case it wasn’t obvious . . .

    YES, THIS IS CLASS WAR.
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    Hoo great now the studients who has been trying to get an injonction to get back to school has been whining beccause the schools wont open beccause of the protest outside is disrupting the whole thing.

    What a bunch of useful fool.
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    Quote Originally Posted by danyboy27 View Post
    Hoo great now the studients who has been trying to get an injonction to get back to school has been whining beccause the schools wont open beccause of the protest outside is disrupting the whole thing.

    What a bunch of useful fool.
    You mean the student scabs who never supported the strike to begin with, yes, useless indeed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheGodlessUtopian View Post
    You mean the student scabs who never supported the strike to begin with, yes, useless indeed.
    they now wear proudly their army green square and look totally useless beccause unlike the studients groups they are unwilling to do anything at all.

    Its the typical profile of the reactionaries in Quebec; they whine and moan but they dont do squat to make anything happen at all.
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    [FONT=Times New Roman]The Guardian is covering the event:[/FONT]
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    [FONT=Times New Roman]Quebec student protests mark 'Maple spring' in Canada[/FONT]
    [FONT=Times New Roman]A revolt against a government tuition fee hike is growing into Occupy-inspired dissent against austerity and inequality[/FONT]

    [FONT=Times New Roman]Martin Lukacs[/FONT]
    [FONT=Times New Roman]guardian.co.uk[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman], Wednesday 2 May 2012 13.30 BST [/FONT]

    [FONT=Times New Roman]http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2012/may/02/quebec-student-protest-canada[/FONT]

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    [FONT=Times New Roman]Quebec finance minister says tuition issue will be resolved in an election[/FONT]


    [FONT=Times New Roman]By Kevin Dougherty, Postmedia News May 2, 2012 [/FONT]


    [FONT=Calibri]http://www.canada.com/news/Quebec+finance+minister+says+tuition+issue+will+re solved+election/6553700/story.html[/FONT]

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    Quote Originally Posted by the zizekian View Post
    [FONT=Times New Roman]Quebec finance minister says tuition issue will be resolved in an election[/FONT]


    [FONT=Times New Roman]By Kevin Dougherty, Postmedia News May 2, 2012 [/FONT]


    [FONT=Calibri]http://www.canada.com/news/Quebec+finance+minister+says+tuition+issue+will+re solved+election/6553700/story.html[/FONT]
    [FONT=Times New Roman]All to the contrary, I say the tuition issue cannot be resolved in an election simply because the youth is not allowed to vote.[/FONT]

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    Quote Originally Posted by the zizekian View Post
    [FONT=Times New Roman]All to the contrary, I say the tuition issue cannot be resolved in an election simply because the youth is not allowed to vote.[/FONT]
    What are you talking about? most studient who protest tuition fee are 18 of age and over.

    If it wont get resolved with an election, it will be most likely beccause the PQ is a bunch of bourgeois assole.
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    Quote Originally Posted by danyboy27 View Post
    What are you talking about? most studient who protest tuition fee are 18 of age and over.

    If it wont get resolved with an election, it will be most likely beccause the PQ is a bunch of bourgeois assole.
    [FONT=Calibri]Wake up, the students are also thinking to those who will follow them![/FONT]

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    Quote Originally Posted by the zizekian View Post
    [FONT=Calibri]Wake up, the students are also thinking to those who will follow them![/FONT]
    You dont seem to understand that the weight of the studient would be enough to bring down the governement in an election.

    And it dosnt change nothing from the fact that the PQ is a bunch of bourgeois who will not hesitate to smack the studient in the face once they will get elected.
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    Quote Originally Posted by danyboy27 View Post
    You dont seem to understand that the weight of the studient would be enough to bring down the governement in an election.

    And it dosnt change nothing from the fact that the PQ is a bunch of bourgeois who will not hesitate to smack the studient in the face once they will get elected.
    You don't seem to understand that the weight of the studients wouldn't be enough to bring down the governement in an election.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the zizekian View Post
    You don't seem to understand that the weight of the studients wouldn't be enough to bring down the governement in an election.
    Believe me, with the lattest participation rate for the 2008 election of 57% it wouldnt take much people to bring Charest down, he got his majority governement only by a fews seats.
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    Quote Originally Posted by danyboy27 View Post
    Believe me, with the lattest participation rate for the 2008 election of 57% it wouldnt take much people to bring Charest down, he got his majority governement only by a fews seats.
    [FONT=Verdana]Believe me, with the latest participation rate for the students strike vote, it wouldn’t take much students to bring to power a government more conservative than the Charest one.[/FONT]

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    Quote Originally Posted by the zizekian View Post
    [FONT=Verdana]Believe me, with the latest participation rate for the students strike vote, it wouldn’t take much students to bring to power a government more conservative than the Charest one.[/FONT]
    Many people stopped going to the popular assembly beccause they didnt liked the general overall atmosphere, they come and go but that dosnt mean they are against the strike or for charest for that matter.

    Most studients hate charest guts and wil vote against him.

    I also fail to see how a more conservative governement could emerge from the next election, The Caq got almost no supporters and everyone hate charest, the worst thing that could happen is a liberal minority governement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by danyboy27 View Post
    Many people stopped going to the popular assembly beccause they didnt liked the general overall atmosphere, they come and go but that dosnt mean they are against the strike or for charest for that matter.

    Most studients hate charest guts and wil vote against him.

    I also fail to see how a more conservative governement could emerge from the next election, The Caq got almost no supporters and everyone hate charest, the worst thing that could happen is a liberal minority governement.
    [FONT=Calibri]Such petty political calculus allows a government to buy time and to use the student’s conflict to hide its corruption. Meanwhile, the wealthy baby-boomers are aging and will vote to give the balance of power to the CAQ.[/FONT]

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    Quote Originally Posted by the zizekian View Post
    [FONT=Calibri]Such petty political calculus allows a government to buy time and to use the student’s conflict to hide its corruption. Meanwhile, the wealthy baby-boomers are aging and will vote to give the balance of power to the CAQ.[/FONT]
    CAQ on a downward spiral?

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