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    Default Texas Man kamikazies aircraft into tax office

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/8522746.stm



    Joseph Andrew Stack flew a single engined aircraft into a tax office in Austin, in a deliberate attack. A US website published a suicide note linked to Stack.

    http://www.businessinsider.com/josep...nifesto-2010-2

    Although the note cannot be definitively be linked to Stack, it lambasts the capitalist system, and states that violence is the only solution.
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    He was anti tax and anti corporatism. I've been watching CNN all day and no one is calling it a terrorist attack. Perhaps because he isn't a muslim? Oh god now they're talking about tiger woods are you serious? They talked about the underwear bomber for an entire day.

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    just take a look around and you will find all mass media to be owned and controlled by a handful of conservative capitalists, sooo they don't want people to know about acts of resistance
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    Individual terrorism is a tragedy and a dead end. Like many before him, he hope that his actions will inspire people to rise up against an opression he has identified quite accurately. His chosen method though simply means he have died in vain uselessly. It does not build a movement, it will not inspire resistance and it will most likely rather create a back-lash. If indeed something good can come out of this it is that those who genuinly wish to defeat the system he opposed will reckognize this through the negative consequences his action will have.
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    Quote Originally Posted by El Rojo View Post
    just take a look around and you will find all mass media to be owned and controlled by a handful of conservative capitalists, sooo they don't want people to know about acts of resistance
    3/4 of what you just said was taken from the song 'Underground Network' by Anti-Flag lmao. But yes, the statement, nonetheless, is absolutely true.

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    I really, really hope that people on this website don't draw any far-reaching conclusions about this man and his ideology other than that he was a frustrated, disturbed individual who snapped. Because I've heard him called everything on other newsites, from teabagger to anarchist (!).

    His suicide note lambasts everything from the government to the IRS to the healthcare industry to the Catholic Church. I'm just glad that no one died in this incident other than him (to the best of my knowledge...I'm actually living in Austin at the moment).
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    Also, I'm sorry to say this but, what the fuck was America really thinking was bound to happen? They have put us at such a limit of options on how to fight back that violence is practically our last option. I'm not going to support EXACTLY what he did, but I support his message.

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    Maybe this could be the begining of the revolution in the south US.
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    Apparently he may have set fire to his home before this.
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    Was there anybody really 'innocent' in the building? From some news sources, I heard something like IRS, FBI, & CIA, those kinds of people. Even my step father when he heard about this, who is an ex-navy seals member, & also pro-communist btw, jumped up with his fist up saying "he's got my support!".

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    The fellow seems to me to be a disillusioned and broken man. I don't think there can be hardly anything considered "revolutionary" in his action aside from his anti-capitalist and anti-establishment claims. It was an act of desperation rather than a larger attempt at a "revolutionary" action.

    The building he crashed into housed a minor branch of the IRS, and there wasn't an important figure in there. He was acting out of the financial straits he had been put into.

    I mean, what kind of revolutionary would have the financial standing to own a private plane?

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    3/4 of what you just said was taken from the song 'Underground Network' by Anti-Flag lmao.
    anti-flag are an educational tool. its a good soundbite against mass media lol.


    I dunno about this guys action. He had lost his money several times over, and was 54. So one could reasonably speculate that it was suicide. And what better way to commit suicide than flying a plane into a capitalist institution? i understand that he killed nobody, and so long as no innocents die, this could be seen as a reasonable tactic for extreame circumstances.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ben G View Post
    Maybe this could be the begining of the revolution in the south US.
    Sadly, no. This is an act of individual terrorism, and although his beliefs are truly righteous, he has accomplished nothing. Like another comrade, this won't get us anywhere and it will probably create an excuse for a backlash against us revolutionary leftists.

    It really is a shame.
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    This is the result of the countless right wing conspiracy theories about the Fed and the IRS income tax laws. It's the result of too much Alex Jones and Glenn Beck!

    Why hasn't this been called a terrorist attack? He rammed a plane into a government building! Just because he was right wing doesn't make him any less of a terrorist. His notes clearly indicate he was an anti-government libertarian nut job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RedManatee View Post
    Sadly, no. This is an act of individual terrorism, and although his beliefs are truly righteous, he has accomplished nothing. Like another comrade, this won't get us anywhere and it will probably create an excuse for a backlash against us revolutionary leftists.

    It really is a shame.
    I know. I was being sarcastic. I have no respect for this man.
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    Quote Originally Posted by El Rojo View Post
    anti-flag are an educational tool. its a good soundbite against mass media lol.


    I dunno about this guys action. He had lost his money several times over, and was 54. So one could reasonably speculate that it was suicide. And what better way to commit suicide than flying a plane into a capitalist institution? i understand that he killed nobody, and so long as no innocents die, this could be seen as a reasonable tactic for extreame circumstances.
    If this will inspire a massive anti-capitalist movement in Texas I'll be the first the come out in support. The point however is that it won't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RadioRaheem84 View Post
    This is the result of the countless right wing conspiracy theories about the Fed and the IRS income tax laws. It's the result of too much Alex Jones and Glenn Beck!

    Why hasn't this been called a terrorist attack? He rammed a plane into a government building! Just because he was right wing doesn't make him any less of a terrorist. His notes clearly indicate he was an anti-government libertarian nut job.
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    The communist creed: From each according to his ability, to each according to his need.

    The capitalist creed: From each according to his gullibility, to each according to his greed.
    Sounds like a libertarian all right.

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    I mean, what kind of revolutionary would have the financial standing to own a private plane?
    He didn't own the plane. He stole it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RadioRaheem84 View Post
    This is the result of the countless right wing conspiracy theories about the Fed and the IRS income tax laws. It's the result of too much Alex Jones and Glenn Beck!

    Why hasn't this been called a terrorist attack? He rammed a plane into a government building! Just because he was right wing doesn't make him any less of a terrorist. His notes clearly indicate he was an anti-government libertarian nut job.
    I would disagree. His note correctly points out that the american government is a government by and for the ruling class. If I am going to pin him to a specific ideology I would say both his letter and actions would point in a more anarchist direction.
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    I don't think this guy was anti-capitalist. He seems like a libertarian type.

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    Apparently, he was a communist supporter though. It's obvious that he didn't think this very well through, &, if he wanted to do a kamikazee attack for the cause, could've selected a better building, but he message he was sending is something EVERYONE needs to look at. And I'm going to have to disagree with the claim that this guy was a conspiracy theorist & his attack was a result from the conspiracy theories. If you want to see that, then just look at the Museum Attack last year. THAT was an attack led by conspiracy theories. This was an attack by a desperate working class man who, quite frankly, got sick & tired of the living conditions to himself, & to the country. Yes, I'm pretty sure it's not going to be the starting point of an anti-capitalist revolution, but the message in itself is justifiable enough to understand where he's coming from & the reasons behind why he did what he did. When the revolution DOES come, expect more righteous attacks in the name of the cause.

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