RevLeft
Go Back   RevLeft > Trash > Trashcan
Register Blogs FAQ Members List RevLeft Groups Chat Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Trashcan Spam, troll posts, etc... are moved here.

Donation Goal
Goal amount for this month: 100 USD, Received: 0 USD (0%)
Donate Now
Do you like RevLeft? Help keeping RevLeft alive and donate to cover the increasing running charges!
Donation History

 
 
Thread Tools
  #41  
Old 3rd April 2008, 01:13
Dros's Avatar
Dros Dros is offline
Sectarian Bastard
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 2,307
Rep Power: 6
Reputation: 114
Dros will become famous soon enoughDros will become famous soon enough
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rosa Lichtenstein View Post
I learnt years ago that to be shy and demur with dialecticians (my initial tactic) got me no less abuse, lies and slander from these mystics -- so these days I get the first blows in (that is why I call you lot mystics from the get-go), and I always give far worse than I get...
...and here starts the name calling...

Rosa, you are a poo-poo head.

[ps: go re-read Dialectics of Nature. I'm sure you'll get it one day!]
__________________
"The Communists disdain to conceal their views and aims. They openly declare that their ends can be attained only by the forcible overthrow of all existing social conditions. Let the ruling classes tremble at a Communistic revolution. The proletarians have nothing to lose but their chains. They have a world to win.

Workers of the World Unite!" -Karl Marx

"The dictatorship of the proletariat, i.e., the organization of the vanguard of the oppressed as the ruling class for the purpose of suppressing the oppressors, cannot result merely in an expansion of democracy. Simultaneously with an immense expansion of democracy, which for the first time becomes democracy for the poor, democracy for the people, and not democracy for the money-bags, the dictatorship of the proletariat imposes a series of restrictions on the freedom of the oppressors, the exploiters, the capitalists. " -Vladimir Lenin

"The People's democratic dictatorship needs the leadership of the working class. For it is only the working class that is most far-sighted, most selfless and most thoroughly revolutionary. The entire history of revolution proves that without the leadership of the working class revolution fails and that with the leadership of the working class revolution triumphs." -Mao Zedong
  #42  
Old 3rd April 2008, 02:19
Rosa Lichtenstein's Avatar
Rosa Lichtenstein Rosa Lichtenstein is offline
Committed User
Committed User
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Greater Manchester, UK
Posts: 14,479
Rep Power: 30
Reputation: 1167
Rosa Lichtenstein is profoundRosa Lichtenstein is profoundRosa Lichtenstein is profoundRosa Lichtenstein is profoundRosa Lichtenstein is profoundRosa Lichtenstein is profoundRosa Lichtenstein is profoundRosa Lichtenstein is profoundRosa Lichtenstein is profound
Default

Drosera:

Quote:
...and here starts the name calling...
Let's see if you mystics are any good at it:

Quote:
Rosa, you are a poo-poo head.
Ah, as I thought; you are as good at name-calling as you are at responding to my takedown of Engels.

Quote:
ps: go re-read Dialectics of Nature. I'm sure you'll get it one day!
Read it dozens of times (no exaggeration); made detailed notes on it. Pulled it apart.

You are welcome to it.
__________________
Hegelism is like a mental disease -- you cannot know what it is until you get it, and then you can't know because you have got it -- Max Eastman.

Enroll on the Dialectics Detox Program: http://anti-dialectics.co.uk/index.htm

Basic Introductory Essay: http://anti-dialectics.co.uk/Why%20I%20Oppose%20DM.htm

Also check out: http://www.leninology.blogspot.com/

Last edited by Rosa Lichtenstein; 3rd April 2008 at 02:27.
  #43  
Old 3rd April 2008, 02:25
Rosa Lichtenstein's Avatar
Rosa Lichtenstein Rosa Lichtenstein is offline
Committed User
Committed User
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Greater Manchester, UK
Posts: 14,479
Rep Power: 30
Reputation: 1167
Rosa Lichtenstein is profoundRosa Lichtenstein is profoundRosa Lichtenstein is profoundRosa Lichtenstein is profoundRosa Lichtenstein is profoundRosa Lichtenstein is profoundRosa Lichtenstein is profoundRosa Lichtenstein is profoundRosa Lichtenstein is profound
Default

RNK:

Quote:
Considering you just went on a small tyrade spanning from defensiveness to shyness to 'mystic crimes', yeah, I'd say you're one hell of a defensive girl.

Also a bit manic, if I were to take a guess. Do you have bipolar syndrome by any chance? You act a lot like people I know that do
Thanks for the armchair psychoanalysis from a distance. And I see you are as good at that as you are at responding to my demolition of your pet 'theory'.

You can't reply, so you just make stuff up about me.

As I said earlier:

Quote:
I learnt years ago that to be shy and demur with dialecticians (my initial tactic) got me no less abuse, lies and slander...
No worries, just so long as your 'theory' goes down the pan. As it has,

And we needn't look to you to defend it. You waved the white flag months ago.
__________________
Hegelism is like a mental disease -- you cannot know what it is until you get it, and then you can't know because you have got it -- Max Eastman.

Enroll on the Dialectics Detox Program: http://anti-dialectics.co.uk/index.htm

Basic Introductory Essay: http://anti-dialectics.co.uk/Why%20I%20Oppose%20DM.htm

Also check out: http://www.leninology.blogspot.com/

Last edited by Rosa Lichtenstein; 3rd April 2008 at 02:26.
  #44  
Old 3rd April 2008, 05:27
Knight of Cydonia's Avatar
Knight of Cydonia Knight of Cydonia is offline
i am is what i am
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Cydonia
Organisation: Merah Hitam
Posts: 1,115
Tendency: Anarchist
Rep Power: 7
Reputation: 207
Knight of Cydonia has a spectacular aura aboutKnight of Cydonia has a spectacular aura aboutKnight of Cydonia has a spectacular aura about
Send a message via Yahoo to Knight of Cydonia
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rosa Lichtenstein View Post
KOC:
Don't tell me -- you've forgotten the words...
__________________
I was Venomous Butterfly

"The day will come when our silence will be more powerful than the voices you are throttling today"

The great are great because we were on our knees, LET US RISE!!!!

merah hitam | zabalaza| anarchist&communist technocrats forum
  #45  
Old 3rd April 2008, 14:06
Rosa Lichtenstein's Avatar
Rosa Lichtenstein Rosa Lichtenstein is offline
Committed User
Committed User
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Greater Manchester, UK
Posts: 14,479
Rep Power: 30
Reputation: 1167
Rosa Lichtenstein is profoundRosa Lichtenstein is profoundRosa Lichtenstein is profoundRosa Lichtenstein is profoundRosa Lichtenstein is profoundRosa Lichtenstein is profoundRosa Lichtenstein is profoundRosa Lichtenstein is profoundRosa Lichtenstein is profound
Default

Never mind, I'll Hmmm along...
__________________
Hegelism is like a mental disease -- you cannot know what it is until you get it, and then you can't know because you have got it -- Max Eastman.

Enroll on the Dialectics Detox Program: http://anti-dialectics.co.uk/index.htm

Basic Introductory Essay: http://anti-dialectics.co.uk/Why%20I%20Oppose%20DM.htm

Also check out: http://www.leninology.blogspot.com/
  #46  
Old 3rd April 2008, 15:11
Holden Caulfield Holden Caulfield is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: where the sun don't shine
Organisation: CWI Sympathizer
Posts: 4,762
Tendency: Trotskyist
Rep Power: 0
Reputation: 1951
Holden Caulfield A fundamentally profound intellectHolden Caulfield A fundamentally profound intellectHolden Caulfield A fundamentally profound intellectHolden Caulfield A fundamentally profound intellectHolden Caulfield A fundamentally profound intellectHolden Caulfield A fundamentally profound intellectHolden Caulfield A fundamentally profound intellectHolden Caulfield A fundamentally profound intellectHolden Caulfield A fundamentally profound intellectHolden Caulfield A fundamentally profound intellectHolden Caulfield A fundamentally profound intellect
Default

does 'she's figure out' even make any sense?
ya know like wot words iz suppost 2?
  #47  
Old 3rd April 2008, 16:42
Rosa Lichtenstein's Avatar
Rosa Lichtenstein Rosa Lichtenstein is offline
Committed User
Committed User
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Greater Manchester, UK
Posts: 14,479
Rep Power: 30
Reputation: 1167
Rosa Lichtenstein is profoundRosa Lichtenstein is profoundRosa Lichtenstein is profoundRosa Lichtenstein is profoundRosa Lichtenstein is profoundRosa Lichtenstein is profoundRosa Lichtenstein is profoundRosa Lichtenstein is profoundRosa Lichtenstein is profound
Default

I don't think English is KOC's first language, but I may be wrong.
__________________
Hegelism is like a mental disease -- you cannot know what it is until you get it, and then you can't know because you have got it -- Max Eastman.

Enroll on the Dialectics Detox Program: http://anti-dialectics.co.uk/index.htm

Basic Introductory Essay: http://anti-dialectics.co.uk/Why%20I%20Oppose%20DM.htm

Also check out: http://www.leninology.blogspot.com/
  #48  
Old 3rd April 2008, 16:47
RedAnarchist's Avatar
RedAnarchist RedAnarchist is offline
Anarchist Communist
Forum Moderator
Admin
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Lancashire, England
Posts: 11,957
Tendency: Anarchist
Blog Entries: 5
Latest Blog Entry: Wow
Rep Power: 29
Reputation: 1151
RedAnarchist is profoundRedAnarchist is profoundRedAnarchist is profoundRedAnarchist is profoundRedAnarchist is profoundRedAnarchist is profoundRedAnarchist is profoundRedAnarchist is profoundRedAnarchist is profound
Default

She's from Indonesia, so her first language is probably Bahasa Indonesian or maybe another one used in Indonesia.
__________________

  #49  
Old 3rd April 2008, 17:03
Holden Caulfield Holden Caulfield is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: where the sun don't shine
Organisation: CWI Sympathizer
Posts: 4,762
Tendency: Trotskyist
Rep Power: 0
Reputation: 1951
Holden Caulfield A fundamentally profound intellectHolden Caulfield A fundamentally profound intellectHolden Caulfield A fundamentally profound intellectHolden Caulfield A fundamentally profound intellectHolden Caulfield A fundamentally profound intellectHolden Caulfield A fundamentally profound intellectHolden Caulfield A fundamentally profound intellectHolden Caulfield A fundamentally profound intellectHolden Caulfield A fundamentally profound intellectHolden Caulfield A fundamentally profound intellectHolden Caulfield A fundamentally profound intellect
Default

in this case, that is fine,

my first language is english and i have been picked up many many times on here by people correcting my grammer, not that i bear grudges (*cough* Crest is my nemisis *cough*)
  #50  
Old 3rd April 2008, 20:35
Lector Malibu's Avatar
Lector Malibu Lector Malibu is offline
Mean People Beware!
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: New Mexico
Posts: 1,570
Blog Entries: 1
Latest Blog Entry: The C.C.
Rep Power: 4
Reputation: 88
Lector Malibu will become famous soon enough
Default

So how does someone get to be CC Member and Forum Moderator and Global Moderator with not even having an idea how basic user functions operate ? That is curious indeed.
__________________
The Line Up So Far
Louder Than A Bomb
Flower Eater
  #51  
Old 3rd April 2008, 20:51
Jazzratt's Avatar
Jazzratt Jazzratt is offline
يمارس الجنس مع الدين
Forum Moderator
Admin
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: England
Posts: 7,454
Rep Power: 42
Reputation: 3081
Jazzratt There are simply not more words to describeJazzratt There are simply not more words to describeJazzratt There are simply not more words to describeJazzratt There are simply not more words to describeJazzratt There are simply not more words to describeJazzratt There are simply not more words to describeJazzratt There are simply not more words to describeJazzratt There are simply not more words to describeJazzratt There are simply not more words to describeJazzratt There are simply not more words to describeJazzratt There are simply not more words to describe
Send a message via MSN to Jazzratt Send a message via Skype™ to Jazzratt
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lector Malibu View Post
So how does someone get to be CC Member and Forum Moderator and Global Moderator with not even having an idea how basic user functions operate ? That is curious indeed.
One usually joins before the site switches format. It took me a little while to get used to vb because I rarely use vb forums - for example.
__________________
Sciences & Environment rocks my bedroom.


  #52  
Old 3rd April 2008, 21:26
Lector Malibu's Avatar
Lector Malibu Lector Malibu is offline
Mean People Beware!
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: New Mexico
Posts: 1,570
Blog Entries: 1
Latest Blog Entry: The C.C.
Rep Power: 4
Reputation: 88
Lector Malibu will become famous soon enough
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jazzratt View Post
One usually joins before the site switches format. It took me a little while to get used to vb because I rarely use vb forums - for example.
Okay, because I was a little confused as the forum instructions and guidelines section is pretty extensive.
__________________
The Line Up So Far
Louder Than A Bomb
Flower Eater
  #53  
Old 4th April 2008, 00:32
RNK RNK is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Montreal, Turtle Island
Posts: 2,034
Rep Power: hidden
Reputation: hidden
RNK will become famous soon enough
Default

Rosa, if you're confident enough that nobody's going to dig up 8 months of buried threads so they can see how you responded to my demolishing your "fomgz Mao was a mystic monster babykiller" by switching to "fomgz Mao thought one could magically turn into two", and that whole imbecillic attempt to "defeat me one-on-one on the field of e-battle about dialectics", then hey, I'm not going to stop you. Like I said, I'll admit I know jack about dialectics with a smile, but atleast I didn't counter your superior knowledge by trying to argue something completely different, and then claim intellectual victory. I mean, if you want to debate, fine, I'll have no problem switching the discussion to the pedantics of diffuse and specular reflection and alpha-channel transparency techniques on normal mapping halfway through the discussion and then run around like a 6 year old about how I pwned your mind.

And despite whatever trumped up self-glorifying holiness you try to attribute yourself, you're still nothing less than an over-sensitive, lonely woman with a giant dialectical stick shoved up your ass. And I'd really suggest you try to get some sort of psychological evaluation, because the kind of pathological childisnhess you protray is highly indicative of advanced personality disorder.
  #54  
Old 4th April 2008, 00:50
Comrade Rage's Avatar
Comrade Rage Comrade Rage is offline
Hoxhaist Union
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Milwaukee
Posts: 1,673
Blog Entries: 3
Rep Power: 5
Reputation: 61
Comrade Rage will become famous soon enough
Send a message via Yahoo to Comrade Rage
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gunther Glick View Post
PS I'd also like to hear people's opinions on Rosa's criticisms and apparent 'demolition' of Dialectical Materialism.
Well, I think they're unfounded. I believe in DM, although I don't claim to have the greatest understanding of it, what I have read is sound.
__________________
formerly Brick
formerly COMRADE CRUM
"To defend Stalin requires more courage than making the Revolution." -Hafizullah Amin


Join the Midwest Marxist-Leninist group.
  #55  
Old 4th April 2008, 08:56
Holden Caulfield Holden Caulfield is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: where the sun don't shine
Organisation: CWI Sympathizer
Posts: 4,762
Tendency: Trotskyist
Rep Power: 0
Reputation: 1951
Holden Caulfield A fundamentally profound intellectHolden Caulfield A fundamentally profound intellectHolden Caulfield A fundamentally profound intellectHolden Caulfield A fundamentally profound intellectHolden Caulfield A fundamentally profound intellectHolden Caulfield A fundamentally profound intellectHolden Caulfield A fundamentally profound intellectHolden Caulfield A fundamentally profound intellectHolden Caulfield A fundamentally profound intellectHolden Caulfield A fundamentally profound intellectHolden Caulfield A fundamentally profound intellect
Default

i dont see how people can not agree with dialectics tbh,
i havent read exstensively into the subject but what i have as Crum says seems pretty sound
  #56  
Old 4th April 2008, 10:56
Rosa Lichtenstein's Avatar
Rosa Lichtenstein Rosa Lichtenstein is offline
Committed User
Committed User
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Greater Manchester, UK
Posts: 14,479
Rep Power: 30
Reputation: 1167
Rosa Lichtenstein is profoundRosa Lichtenstein is profoundRosa Lichtenstein is profoundRosa Lichtenstein is profoundRosa Lichtenstein is profoundRosa Lichtenstein is profoundRosa Lichtenstein is profoundRosa Lichtenstein is profoundRosa Lichtenstein is profound
Default

LM:

Quote:
Okay, because I was a little confused as the forum instructions and guidelines section is pretty extensive.
It's one of the few things I had not noticed until it was pointed out to me.
__________________
Hegelism is like a mental disease -- you cannot know what it is until you get it, and then you can't know because you have got it -- Max Eastman.

Enroll on the Dialectics Detox Program: http://anti-dialectics.co.uk/index.htm

Basic Introductory Essay: http://anti-dialectics.co.uk/Why%20I%20Oppose%20DM.htm

Also check out: http://www.leninology.blogspot.com/
  #57  
Old 4th April 2008, 10:58
Rosa Lichtenstein's Avatar
Rosa Lichtenstein Rosa Lichtenstein is offline
Committed User
Committed User
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Greater Manchester, UK
Posts: 14,479
Rep Power: 30
Reputation: 1167
Rosa Lichtenstein is profoundRosa Lichtenstein is profoundRosa Lichtenstein is profoundRosa Lichtenstein is profoundRosa Lichtenstein is profoundRosa Lichtenstein is profoundRosa Lichtenstein is profoundRosa Lichtenstein is profoundRosa Lichtenstein is profound
Default

RNK:

Quote:
And despite whatever trumped up self-glorifying holiness you try to attribute yourself, you're still nothing less than an over-sensitive, lonely woman with a giant dialectical stick shoved up your ass. And I'd really suggest you try to get some sort of psychological evaluation, because the kind of pathological childisnhess you protray is highly indicative of advanced personality disorder.
Nothing worse than a dialectician scorned. Full of venom and bile.

Still, you can't defend that mystical theory of yours.

But, you are not alone; in 25 years, I have yet to meet/debate with anyone who can.

Have a nice fume...
__________________
Hegelism is like a mental disease -- you cannot know what it is until you get it, and then you can't know because you have got it -- Max Eastman.

Enroll on the Dialectics Detox Program: http://anti-dialectics.co.uk/index.htm

Basic Introductory Essay: http://anti-dialectics.co.uk/Why%20I%20Oppose%20DM.htm

Also check out: http://www.leninology.blogspot.com/

Last edited by Rosa Lichtenstein; 4th April 2008 at 10:59.
  #58  
Old 4th April 2008, 11:00
Rosa Lichtenstein's Avatar
Rosa Lichtenstein Rosa Lichtenstein is offline
Committed User
Committed User
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Greater Manchester, UK
Posts: 14,479
Rep Power: 30
Reputation: 1167
Rosa Lichtenstein is profoundRosa Lichtenstein is profoundRosa Lichtenstein is profoundRosa Lichtenstein is profoundRosa Lichtenstein is profoundRosa Lichtenstein is profoundRosa Lichtenstein is profoundRosa Lichtenstein is profoundRosa Lichtenstein is profound
Default

CC:

Quote:
Well, I think they're unfounded. I believe in DM, although I don't claim to have the greatest understanding of it, what I have read is sound.
Ah, the naive faith of a true believer. So scientific; so Marxist...
__________________
Hegelism is like a mental disease -- you cannot know what it is until you get it, and then you can't know because you have got it -- Max Eastman.

Enroll on the Dialectics Detox Program: http://anti-dialectics.co.uk/index.htm

Basic Introductory Essay: http://anti-dialectics.co.uk/Why%20I%20Oppose%20DM.htm

Also check out: http://www.leninology.blogspot.com/
  #59  
Old 4th April 2008, 11:54
Lector Malibu's Avatar
Lector Malibu Lector Malibu is offline
Mean People Beware!
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: New Mexico
Posts: 1,570
Blog Entries: 1
Latest Blog Entry: The C.C.
Rep Power: 4
Reputation: 88
Lector Malibu will become famous soon enough
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rosa Lichtenstein View Post
LM:



It's one of the few things I had not noticed until it was pointed out to me.
Why am I not suprised?
__________________
The Line Up So Far
Louder Than A Bomb
Flower Eater
  #60  
Old 4th April 2008, 16:02
RNK RNK is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Montreal, Turtle Island
Posts: 2,034
Rep Power: hidden
Reputation: hidden
RNK will become famous soon enough
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by RNK
I learned my lesson trying to debate with you about something I didn't understand
Quote:
Originally Posted by RNK
Like I said, I'll admit I know jack about dialectics with a smile
...

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rosa
Still, you can't defend that mystical theory of yours.
LOL OH NO ROSA YOU GOT ME THERE.

Anyway, it's so very ironic that I came into this thread bitching about your incapability to argue anything but anti-dialectics to the point that you'll change the topic of any discussion towards it, and here you are, doing the same thing. And I'm starting to get a feeling that this is your standard defense mechanism. Whenever someone crosses you, attack their dialectics! By proving your "dialectical superiority", you can win any debate about any topic, and do so for the glory of the revolution!
 

Bookmarks

Tags
question, rosa

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Rosa Luxemburg Knowledge 6 6 6 History 16 17th February 2004 18:54


All times are GMT. The time now is 09:46.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2010, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Zoints SEO v2.3.0 by Zoints & DxLwebs.com

Che Guevara Shirts, T-shirts, Tshirts, tees, merchandise