Latin america may not have active guerrilla organizations as big as far-asia, but the class-consiousness is roughly equal. They are not all maoists. Not saying that maoism is bad.

Besides, we should be happy for the anti-capitalist masses anywhere despite their sect. Anything else is sectarianism.

Examples please? I know only of the Clandestine Communist Party of Colombia. They are not Maoists, but they implement the Maoist theory of PPW as well.

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RATM supporting the Shining Path. Cool video and a good song.

....Zapatistas anyone?

Indeed, although they are not very big and are likely to be destroyed in their entirety by the Mexican state soon.

I think people are correct in generally saying south america has a high class consciousness, on the specifics however I don't think you can say people follow "the exact formula of marx-lenin-mao-stalin" or anything like that, it is true though that regardless of your political affiliations, a lot of south american countries are led by revisionist or pretty liberal governments, Nicaragua.. Honduras, Argentina etc, the extent of their progressiveness is a long topic in itself.

There have obviously been traditional organisations who don't identify as maoist in their political affiliation that have had large successes in south america too, but yeah I don't think blanketly covering anywhere as "definitely working to this formula" really achieves much.

Communist parties and class consciousness are two different things. Also, class consciousness does not necessarily manifest itself as a revolutionary movement. But since you asked --> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Movemen...alism_(Bolivia)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationa...ty_(Costa_Rica)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialist_Party_of_Chile

Slipped my mind, that said I don't really see them working towards a socialist Mexico, although what they are doing in their own communities of course is very positive and progressive, they have been on ceasefire for over a decade now, and they're not exactly in a position to trigger a revolution.
These groups are all entirely reformist, in fact I believe the Costa Rican PLN are a part of Socialist International, which British Labour is a member of.

Right. Third-world parliamentary parties without armed revolutionary forces are all reformists.

I was not claiming revolutionary. I claimed class consciousness. Besides, I was under the illusion that wide anti-capitalism in Latin america was common knowledge in Revleft.

Depends upon what you mean by anti-capitalism. All revisionist parties pay lip-service to that, and even organize rallies seemingly against some capitalist powers. But they support capitalism through their deeds.

That is complete bullshit, unless you can produce proof to prove your point.

Red—Revolutionary: Just because you denounce that wikipedia as a bourgeois capitalist propaganda organ that is so unreliable that "mature" debates cannot be based upon information contained therein, does not make it so. Has their been a CC vote or any thread in which the revleft community has agreed that for the purposes of this forum, wikipedia cannot be used as a credible source?
I denounce revleft for surely there are capitalist and fascist moles planting misinformation somewhere, therefor we cannot trust any post to be true and cannot present them as evidence in any other posy.

Parties, perhaps, but what about the masses that rally behind these promises? Is that not what the discussion is about?

But the masses are successfully diverted by these parties. Today revisionist parties form the political basis of capitalist exploitation, because the existence of the proletariat implies that if there is no party that claims itself to be proletarian, then it is likely that this political space will be filled by a vanguard party that naturally arises from the proletariat, that is, a genuine communist party.

You can ask our resident user on this forum 'Forward Union' exactly what's going on around Chiapas, he was a part of them and I'm pretty confident he will tell you the same thing I did.

Phat Rage tune. Also I think the Manics support Shining Path a little maybe. They give them a shout out in one of their songs Baby Elian. "We follow a shining path that you can never destroy". Yeah

If Rage writes a song about them, they must be authentic revolutionaries?

No but that is a cool song it's good to know that awesome rock groups support progressive movements like Shining Path.

It is accepted as a discredited source not only in Revleft but in any intellectual or academic debate.
Hence why the likes of Universitys, Colleges, political works etc do not use Wikipedia as a referance because of its inherent weaknesses.

Not to attempt to divert the topic; but I think certainly on other language wikipedias it can generally be a lot less biased. Also, some articles have left bias and I'm pretty sure of that, I can't think of any off the top of my head but some certainly do have different kinds of left bias. In the end of the day, you have to take wikipedia article-by-article, depending on the article's sources and exactly what's written on there (and sometimes, who it has been written by).

When was is accepted as such? I see it used frequently with no objections.

Neither side has produced any (conclusive) evidence that the shining path in a true revolutionary organization. The burden of proof is on the affirmative if I remember correctly. I would really like to get to the truth but refusing to engage in debate because of your opponent's lack of credible sources doesn't really help your case.

Is- Forward union agreed that it was a possibility but gave no proof or reasoning behind it. Given the Mexican government's preoccupation with the cartels at the moments and the Zapatistas ample international support, I find a total eradication scenario to be unlikely. Of course I could be wrong.