Just an example, this was on wikipedia the other day.

http://www.revleft.com/vb/lalgarh-ma....html?t=120378

so Indian Maoists aren't Cannibals? I guess I am going to join the Zapatistas after all.

Uhm, sendiero luminoso has consequently targetted and voilently attacked all genuine left forces In peru and through their terrorism been the greatest deterrement for revolutionary development in peru, save the state regime itself. Not much to hooray for really.

To Mayakovsky: Please don't identify this type of posts as troll-posts. I know that whatever reflects reality seems to pinch you. But all this really exposes your ignorance of Marxism.

I can never work out why exactly in the countries where Maoists are prominant there is a great possibility of revolution by other leftists and they are ruining it. What about the many other countries where Maoists are not there? Any revolution coming up?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shining_Path
I guess that you'll say Omfg, Wikipedia... evil capitalist web site but still, this is what makes them really nice organisation:

Because capitalists go to shopping mall, not working class.

So, I shouldn't argue with red_cat, right?

Communism 100%

etc.

btw. where does their guns and bombs coming from?

I wouldnt call it "evil" as it is purely a subjective term.
But it is certainly a peddler of discredited bourgeois propaganda.
So yes, come back with a reputable source.

Which would be web site of Shining Path or book wrote by their member or some one who like them.

Not my responsibility chief.
Im afraid its yours.
If you have a point to make on this group use a reputable source and the posters here will determine whether is is a reasonably balanced account.
If you cant be arsed then dont bother posting.

1st WTF?!

So I have to find you some source which is biased in the way that fits you and this will then be "reputable source". I guess that I must put link from stalin society in every discussion then.

I posted link from wikipedia with very detailed article on Shining Path. Members of Shining Path could go there and made their article about Shining Path and it will be there, since no one will bother to go and correct it. I would like to see how will red_cat (since he/she's advocating the Shining Path) justify accusations for cocaine smuggling which is 100% revolutionary activity, blowing up buildings full of civilians aka. working class, torturing of peasants and workers organised in trade unions etc. which is proving that they are nothing but thugs (as someone mentioned earlier).

Also, so what if Wikipedia is capitalist source? If you can't answer on that that means that you are pathetic. Or we should only discuss about articles from stalin society?!

Using reputable sources to back up your arguement is your responsibility not mine.
Hence why it is your responsibility to go look for these articles, not mine.
Nice attempt at distorting my point.
Now back to the rational debate.
Get a reputable source and then we can engage politically like mature marxists.
The detail is irrelevant.
It is not a reputable source.
Hence your arguement fails.
Your a credit to rational debate.
Stalin society?
Are you finished throwing your rattle out of the pram?
Now go find a reputable source to verify your claims so we can conduct this debate maturely if thats not too much to ask.

Are you done?
You haven't answer to any of questions which I asked, you just started to attack me on personal level about "maturely debating" etc. Nice way to turn discussion in other way and to avoid things.
If you believe that articles which are not from media's you consider "objective" (and objective media's DO NOT EXIST) irrelevant and not for discussion then tell me what are you afraid of? That by bringing few questions into discussion your Shining Path will be discredited? Their practice made them discredited long time ago.
Also, it's really nice to go on leftish internet forum and to read users saying "we won't discuss this, this is not objective"... Everything is for discussion, and you should try to prove that those Wikipedia stuff are "capitalist propaganda".
Regarding Stalin society, that a joke because of your "reputable source" crap and your Stalin avatar. So, I guess that this is only web site your trust
So, what shall we do not? Will you continue attacking me because I posted Wikipedia link or will you let red_cat to answer me?

The Stalin Society has nothing to do with Shining Path or any other Maoist organisation. The Stalin Society is a discussion group dedicated to the study of, surprise surprise, Stalin. So please don't play two completely unrelated groups against each other, and please don't use Red Revolutionary's admiration for Stalin as an excuse not to take him seriously. You posted a link to Wikipedia, all of the content on Wikipedia is generated by people like you and me so it can not be trusted, but I checked the Wikipedia page anyway and the claim that Shining Path are an evil drug running terrorist organisation doesn't seem to be backed up by any immediately available or especially trustworthy sources, so your information is about as reliable as a teenage girl's blog.

A documentary on the PCP just before Gonzalo was captured.

http://marxistleninist.wordpress.com...-shining-path/

Your immaturity is slightly irritating.
Your questions are irrelevant because you do not have a reputable source to to verify your accusations.
Point and case.
You must provide a reputable source to verify your claims, Its the way intellectual deabtes are conducted.
Wrong again.
When you make claims you must be able to verify them with reputable sources when asked to.
Arent jokes ment to be funny?
What a ridiculous accusation.
This is embarressing and only helps to sunbstantiate my opinion on your immaturity.
Asking for a reputable link to your claims is not attacking you.
It is the way a rational debate follows.
So stop throwing the rattle out of the pram because you were called on your source and get a reputable source to verify your claims.

About the murder of María Elena Moyano, grassroot leftist activist, by Sendero's thugs:

http://www.amigosdevilla.it/Moyano.htm

(in Castillian)

Luís Henrique

I don't agree with the Shining Path based on their organisational strategy. But I can see that the claims that have been used against them have been heavily exagerrated/distorted by the Bourgeois media.

Trotskysists:

Maoists:


Now to play a little guessing game, guess who spends their time making meaningless grafitti to support to peoples war, being complete fucking clichées and violently threaten ex-members of their organisation of 20-ish people, and who organizes a mass of workers. And no I don't intend to get into a meaningless debate with some "maoist" fanboy who's made his understanding of marxism quite abundantly clear.

Good attempt, but please try to compare the number of people in the first pictures of both the posts.

Also, I would appreciate a picture of any present Trotskyist red army (because of course, you claim to be Leninists).

I've never seen anything to suggest that the struggle in less developed countries revolves around anything other than Marxism-Leninism. India, Nepal, the Philippines, these are the countries which are leading the way for socialist revolution today, and all of them follow the path of Marx-Engels-Lenin-Stalin-Mao.

Also, to Mayakovsky, those people in the second picture you posted are white and likely European or North American, it could be the New Peru Friendship Association who are based in Sweden, anyway, they don't look very oppressed. My point is that Maoism is basically non-existent in developed countries because the conditions do not favour the Maoist strategy so well, look to the third world, the people who truly understand that decisive action is necessary, it is Maoists who are taking point in the revolutions in these countries. Comparing pictures of Trotskyists in Bolivia or Colombia or wherever that was taken, and Maoists in Sweden, doesn't make a whole lot of sense.