It has been widely known since the 1980s that Trotsky lied many times to the Dewey Commission about his involvement with the opposition in the USSR.

Trotsky and Trotskyite cultists have always tried to discredit the Moscow Trials with the example of the 'Hotel Bristol' issue. It was alleged that Holtzmann simply made this up, or that the prosecution bungled this detail, or some such nonsense. Now we know for a fact that not only is Holtzmann's testimony completely accurate and Trotsky a liar, but that Trotsky deliberately asked other Trotskyites to lie on his behalf in order to undermine the Moscow Trials on this issue.

The article is on the Cultural Logic website. The 25 post requirement prevents me from directly linking to the pdf file.

edit: http://clogic.eserver.org/2008/Holmstrom.pdf

Trotsky's sons were dead before the Dewey Commission was ever formed.

This is false. Lev Sedov died on February 16th, 1938. The Dewey Commission was initiated in March 1937 and the findings published in September of that same year.

Yes, because when I'm organizing in my community, the first thing people ask me about is... 'Hotel Bristol'. Then they say, "you know the only thing preventing me from supporting Stalinism and a system that crushed workers while using the name of socialism to do and built a national empire on the backs of the working class and in the name of anti-imperialism is... the 'Hotel Bristol issue'".

Dude, I don't even know what this obscure piece of Stalinalia is. But the fact that we are living at a time when the US bombing all over the world, imperialist competition between the US and up and coming competitors like China and Russia are heating up in the context of a global capitalist crisis... and 'the Hotel Bristol issue' is your big concern.... well, it says a lot.

You are correct. My misread of the dates.

The whole basis of the bullshit ISO spews is their cult of personality centered around Trotsky, who was simply a liar, and guilty as charged by the Soviet government. ISO is a cult, run by a handful of people who basically operate it as a publishing company, actively support US imperialism in Iran and Zimbabwe, and pretty much oppose all the progressive forces in the world today. ISO a disgusting, counter-revolutionary organization, as are most Trotskyite cults. The more information that is revealed to discredit your cult, the better for the world.

Does that mean there are some "Trotskyite cults" that aren't counter-revolutionary and disgusting?

Cult of personality? And you are the one trying to refute the political tradition of Trotskyism by calling one person a liar?! Too bad I don't really care about Trotsky the individual, I care about how to build worker's power and revolution.

Yes. Trotskyism has two component parts in dialectic opposition to one another; a more-or-less Marxist component and an unrelenting anti-communist component. Different Trotskyite groups have been attracted more toward one end of the pole than the other over the decades. Most Trotskyite cults, and especially Cliffite groups, occupy the anti-communist pole, while groups like the PSL and WWP have occupied the Marxist pole. Some groups, like the Sparts, are somewhere in the middle.

Historically there have been Trotskyist parties, though very few in number, that have attempted violent revolutions. The ones in Sri Lanka and Argentina for example.

On which planet does this tribe live?

Do you imply that you consider the moscow trials a fair game? That you think the conclusions reached by those trials are something connected to reality? I think even the most crazy stalinist should admit that the moscow trials were show to terrorize russian population and especially the bolshevik militants. they are so farcical that seem a creation of McCarthy to discredit Stalin

Can we now have an article that shows how the Stalinists made an alliance with the Nazis? Or, is that a lie, too?

It is sufficient a picture I think.... (http://images.google.it/imgres?imgur...26tbs%3Disch:1)

Forgive my ignorance, but what is "Hotel Bristol" anyway?

^^^It was alleged in the Moscow trials that Trotsky met certain agents in this hotel in Copenhagen.

http://www.marxists.org/archive/trot.../session01.htm

The hotel, apparently, did not exist!

The context to this attempt to rehabilitate Stalin is outlined effectively here:

http://louisproyect.wordpress.com/category/ussr/

It's the recording studio where Len Barry [real name Len Borisoff--coincidence? I think not] and the Deauvilles recorded The Bristol Stomp.

"The kids in Bristol
Are sharp as a pistol
When they do
The Bristol Stomp"

The PSL and WWP are "Trotskyite cults"?

At least learn about the parties that you try to talk about.

He probably refers to Trotskyists that way.