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  1. Pogue
    7th July 2009 18:12
    Yeh, I have my deeds here right beside me now to the word anarchism, and that is of course entirely contradictor yof my believe that private property is wrong. I also charge people for using the word.

    I hope you recognise my sarcasm there just reprents how your answer is stupid and oncemore reflects your ignorance as you dont even know what private property means.
  2. Pogue
    7th July 2009 17:49
    What are you on about? All I have said is anarchism as an ideology, called anarchism, when people identified as the anarchist movement, emerged from socialism. There was no anarchism before socialism or apart form socialism until free makrteers stole the word later on
  3. Pogue
    7th July 2009 16:50
    there was no anarcho-capitalist movement. free markets have been rpacticed throughout history, but that wasn't the intellectual roots of anarchism. it was free market capitalism. it wasn't as though when the IWA were arguing the an caps were around

    free market capitalism existed, libertarian socialism emerged from the IWA under bakunin, which adopted the name of anarchism (which was coined by proudhon)

    what i am saying is anarchism as an ideolgoy was created solely as libertarian socialism, there was no original anarchism which split into left and right, it has always been left wing, and free marketeers stole the name later.

    i dont think u udnerstand this.
  4. Pogue
    7th July 2009 16:41
    thats such rubbish, thats not even true history, it wasnt an 'anarchist movement', anarchism came from the first international and the wiritings of libertarian socialists
  5. Pogue
    7th July 2009 16:35
    i did read it, i just think its shit. i've heard the argument of anarchism jsut menaing anti-state before and its simply wrong. anarchism has no roots except in the socialist movement.
  6. Pogue
    7th July 2009 16:30
    Nah you clearly don't have much of a clue. Anarchism was libertarian socialism. Thats the ideological roots. You don't seem to understand it, and now you seem to be offering me some sort of quasi-randroid argument. what excactl are your politics?

    and yes i will quite comfortably tell you if you are misusing a word, and yes, i will tell you if i know more about a subject than you if you dmeonstrate to me your ignorance
  7. Pogue
    7th July 2009 15:59
    the fact your taking a dictionary definition to me hilights how little you know about anarchism

    for example, you clearly remain entirely ignorant of its historical roots. anarchism never existed outside of the socialist movement. I really think you should read more ebfore engaging in this argument because trust me I know alot more about this than you, and I am right.
  8. Pogue
    7th July 2009 13:54
    No, anarchy is not the lack of a state. Anarchy is the situation of a classless, stateless society. If there remains capitalism it is not anarchy. Its a right wing myth that you can have right wing anarchism. It wouldn't be anarchism with capitalist economics. You've made an absurd claim about an absurd situation.
  9. Pogue
    6th July 2009 19:46
    How could you have an anarchist society that is also capitalist though?
  10. Pogue
    6th July 2009 19:32
    wait lol wut

    u'd like to see anarchism regardless of the economic system

    explain please mate

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