ckaihatsu

Originally Posted by ckaihatsu

I'd like to jump in here to ask you (and anyone reading this) to consider that the *essence* of politics is issues -- it could be issues about usage, or labor, or -- currently -- money, but it *always* boils down to *issues*.

So, if we can get to a process that frees us from all of the showmanship and power politics of the current system, then we can have more labor-based participation in the politics of *labor* and asset / resource utilization, since that's what's at the heart of it all.

We can keep track of labor input primarily as an *issue*, instead of as an abstract, numerical money-based quantity. I'd say the only two types of numbers / quantities we'd have to track concerning labor value would be labor hours and labor difficulty. I outlined this priority-issue-oriented politics a few months ago:

Originally Posted by ckaihatsu

The administration [...] would be directly and transparently staffed by the prioritized demands of the locality's population. This administration would only *reflect*, or *administer to*, the demands of the locality -- it could not *substitute* for the will of the population.

If there was a shortage of some goods or services -- based on outstanding demand -- then that would make work hours (labor credits) that much more available for anyone who wanted to accumulate labor hours / credits. If the work involved in producing those goods or services was particularly difficult, or required a high degree of education or training, or was particularly distasteful, then the *multiplier* attached to the labor hours for that kind of work would go up, as a section of the locality's population would become impatient enough to re-issue their demand -- this time at a higher multiplier, and at a new priority level.

This offering of more labor credits would be a debit to the locality's economy, because they would subsequently have to provide compensatory goods and services, as valued by labor credits, to fulfill those issued labor credits. Note that labor credits *would not circulate* -- they would simply be credits made to individuals who fulfilled the labor requirements to receive those credits from the locality.

Those goods and services that are produced through automation -- that is, highly leveraged labor power -- would most likely be so easily provided -- like drinking water, for example -- that they would fall *outside the system* of labor credits. Once goods and services became so plentiful as to be available in a *surplus* there would no longer be any demand for it -- again, demonstrating that they would fall outside of the formal, official system of labor credits by being commonly available on a daily, ongoing basis.[/quote]

Originally Posted by h9socialist

2) If workers work for labor credits, won't this likely be viewed as another, more esoteric, form of wage labor?


Originally Posted by ckaihatsu

The opposite meaning of 'esoteric' is 'tangible' -- and the utilization of tangible resources can be tracked over time. A better output of finished products and services, per unit of time, for inputs used, is called 'greater efficiency'.


Originally Posted by ckaihatsu

Efficiency can be determined by a balance sheet of what goods and services are being produced by a given project or production run, divided by what assets, resources, and labor are going into the project or production run. These data can be tracked over time, with adjustments made to either make the process *more* efficient (fewer resources used for the same output), or not, depending on the prioritized demands of the locality.

CORRECTION:

communist supply & demand -- Economic balance sheet

http://tinyurl.com/c6wzw9


ALSO SEE:

Supply prioritization in a socialist transitional economy

http://tinyurl.com/5mjhhh

revolutionary policy *solution* (SOCIALIST SUPPLY & DEMAND)

http://www.revleft.com/vb/blog.php?b=275


communist economy diagram

http://tinyurl.com/bom9ca


communist supply & demand -- Political balance sheet

http://tinyurl.com/cy5ypy


communist supply & demand -- Economic balance sheet

http://tinyurl.com/d92fy5


Affinity Group Workflow Tracker

http://tinyurl.com/yvn2xq

> Do you believe the attacks on the WTC were an inside job of sorts?


Yeah, the reasoning goes as follows:

Two airplanes crashed into two World Trade Center buildings on the day of 9-11, yet * three * World Trade Center buildings collapsed * straight down * into their own footprints. The third building was the World Trade Center 7 building, not hit by any airplane.

All three buildings were structurally sound and had steel frames. No conventional explanation, not even including the airplanes, can account for the * straight down * collapse, and * near-total pulverization * of *all* building materials constituting all three buildings.

Assuming that some sort of prior installation of explosives, consistent with the industry practice of controlled demolition, would be required to cause these collapses and disintegrations, we can inquire into how such explosives could be installed under the nose of building security.

Combined with the other anomalous circumstances of the day -- like the airplanes being off-course for so long -- we can conclude that there was a top-level shut-down of normal security procedures that would otherwise have caught and prevented these things from happening.

I was active locally for about a year or so around the 9-11 issue because I found the response to it from the general left to be unsatisfying. I've since stopped political activity around it as a matter of political priorities. Some of my past activity can be found on the group's message board:

9/11 Truth, from the left

http://www.meetup.com/lonelantern/me...thread/5037666


Hope this helps -- regardless, we know that U.S. imperialism profited handsomely from the shock and jingoistic mobilization that 9-11 enabled. (Sorry for the delayed response -- I don't usually check this page.)

Comradely,


Chris




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Do you believe the attacks on the WTC were an inside job of sorts?