* Cassius Clay, you are the man who knows the truth.Right now, I struggle against trotskyst, I consider it my obligation to defend the idea of Marxism- Leninism. That's why I am here for now.

* I have lived in the USSR only for 8 years, and it wasn't Soviet State anymore. Gorbachev started his destructive reforms, but I really didn't understand what was happenning being that age old. But I have talked to the people who were elder than me, who actually had lived in the Soviet Union, and that is why I also know the truth.

*Maaja also was born in the USSR. But due to the environment she lived in after the collapse of the USSR and to the reasons of her Estonian mentality, she is mistaken about it.

Why dont you just stop the bullshit RH.

Maaja only has "her Estonian mentality" because she knows about the wrongs that have gone on in her country & indeed others under the name "USSR"..

Your a stubborn fool looking for a reason for people to turn their head in your direction,like so many other communists in Russia.
In my opinion Russia needs some sort of social & political reform,to solve the health & crime crisis thats going on there.
But not in the authoritarian fashion it happened last time,Murdering innocent people isnt exactly making everybody equal now is it?

You have to read between the lines,Only then will you discover the evils that have gone on under the Name "USSR".

*Pastradamus we talk mainly about post -Stalinist period of the USSR's development. Take it since 1953 till 1982. You tell me what was wrong!

*And , pastradamus, you have lost the topic of our discussion Turnoviseous and Maaja declared USSR non- socialist state, which is not true. I advise you to read previous posts before you decide to give a rational reply.

The USSR is only reffered to as being a socialist state because there were no other big examples of leftist states really,& because the average idiot capitalist authour would refer to anything left-wing as being socialism & have thus made the word especially vague.


You dont know what was wrong with 1953-1982?
how about lack of liberty? lack of political opinion,lack of freedom in eastern bloc countries because the're under the thumb of the USSR.The devolopment of nuclear warheads capable of destroying the world hundreads of times oves.Almost causing a 3rd world war(and a nuclear one at that) against another evil state-the USA.

as you can imagine I could go on all day...

GO, go, go, go!!!!

http://www.apaginavermelha.hpg.ig.com.br/tleapv.htm
Lenin and Trotsky did not always see eye to eye but Trotsky had much more in common with Lenin than Stalin. Lenin was more able, and persuasive. Trotsky
also encouraged dialogue, at least more than Stalin
who on the contrary crushed dissent.

Stalin was given too much leeway by Lenin and Trotsky.
This pro-Stalin account establishes that.

*Your problem is that you don't know what socialism is. Find any definition of socialism , written by whoever ( left- winger or right- winger) and you will find out that USSR had all of the characteristic listed in the exact definition.

*Your liberal talks can't negate the fact that USSR was socialist state.

" lack of liberty". SITUATION IN THE USSR.
Everyone could say whatever he wish, but it shouldn't have been had any anti-communistic essence. *ANTI-COMMUNISM WAS DISALLOWED. CRITICISM AND DISCUSSIONS ABOUT POLICY QUESTIONS WERE ALLOWED.


* Eastern bloc issue. *The countries of the eastern bloc were socialist and were equal to the USSR. Soviet state didn't exploit them and didn't rob their resources like capitalist states do. The countries of the Eastern bloc and USSR had friendly relations, based on the mutual respect. The situation with the freedom in these countries were the same as in the USSR, not because USSR ruled over these " poor" countries, but because these countries were SOCIALIST and INDEPENDENT. Moreover the social- economical situation in the Eastern bloc countries was better than in USSR, as these countries didn't spent that much money on the military industry , as the USSR did. Here, I have moved to the military theme.

* Nuclear third world war problem.
*
Well, here you should consider the international situation and also the fact that USSR didn't support agressive war policy. It was US state , which always started the WARS. Thanks to the military development USSR helped to all other socialist states and noncapitalist states, such as Cuba, Vietnam, Angola, Northern Korea etc.

* Pastradamus, I know what I talk about, and you don't. You are the victim of the bourgeoisie propaganda and I am sorry for you.

* How can't you understand the simple deduction , which is *ANTI - SOVIETISM = ANTI- COMMUNISM.

I am sorry , peacenicked, but your reply seemed to be a little bit off the topic.
* What do you think about USSR? I think that at least you should consider it socialist state.