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I know this is going to be controversial. But instead of letting the fascists from the EDL protest against militant Islam why not have a left wing resistance to militant Islam?
I went to a UAF meeting the other day and just dont understand them anymore.
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You have 6 posts, all of them in Islam or EDL related threads, calling for opposition to Islam from 'the left'.
Seems like a clear case of an EDL troll there. Honestly, get a fucking life, the EDL seems to be composed of people who sit on their arses all day long browsing the internet calling for 'STOP TEH ISLAMZ LOL' ![]() Wankers.
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If Militant Islam become a big strong movement then maybe it would needed. But right now it just seems to be Choudry and a few of his mates.
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The militant Islam is only a very small threat to the proletariat, thus there is no reason to have a wide resistance against them. The EDL's islamophobia isn't directed at the "militant Islam", but against all non-european foreigners. So GTFO, troll.
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Why not organize against immigrants while we're at it?
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Sorry for speaking out against militant Islam .
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The xenophobia and ignorance spread by groups like the EDL is a much bigger problem than the supposed threat of 'islamism' they use an excuse for their bigoted views.
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Why not, then, speak up against militant capitalism instead? They've basically created "militant Islam" as well as countless of miseries.
And you've really got to like groups like the EDL. Ha! "Defence"? So I guess it is typically English to cut away all social nets and benefits? Or act lapdog for the American warmachine? I bet the EDL has no quarrel about sending troops to faraway countries, yet two immigrants who happens to wear the wrong type of clothes or believe in the wrong religion is suddenly a threat to all of England? Really, on paper it is a nice trick. While the social life is being hacked away at hyperspeed in front of everyone's eyes, and suddenly, out of nowhere, immigration is a problem! That the world stands in the Second Great Depression and people are losing their jobs faster than travelling light particles through space (not to mention pensions, or unions that collaborate with the capitalists and lower the wages to madly low levels) hasn't come through anyone's mind it seems. Hitler came to power during the First Great Depression, so it is no mystery why racist parties takes the lead. Depression and lack of common politics in the eyes of the public makes these kind of parties attractive, unfortunately.
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I don't see anything wrong with taking a stance against militant Islam, I'm sorry you were called a troll. I think the reason the left hasn't taken a real stance against it is because we're involved in a struggle against their enemy and we see the evil being done in the name of fighting this "boogeyman". On it's own, there's nothing wrong with taking a "stance" against it. But my rifle isn't pointed at them, it's pointed at their enemies.
Muslims in America got me my first and second job(which is very hard to find on the south side of chicago), they're the calmest sweetest people I've met around here. But I do believe many countries that follow Islam are in need of interior revolutions, especially concerning women's rights and religious freedom. America has used Christianity to justify so many evils it's ridiculous, but things have improved(erm, sorta) because of resistance from people INSIDE our country. And I feel that if militant islam is to be stopped, it would have to come from those who actually are FROM those previously mentioned nations. Interference from the outside, especially from countries with alternative agendas(America), all it will do is give more power to their cause. And trust me, no one fights harder than someone with nothing to lose but what you're trying to take. |
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Why are we wasting time on Little Fish when theres Imperialist Whales out there killing innocent people. eg - Labour and the Tories
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There never seems to be much of a point to this kind of thread. It's all formulated in such general terms. "We need to resist militant Islam!" Yeah, you go ahead and do that; good luck figuring out "how". It's just as pointless as when someone says "We need to unite", "We need to make revolution", etc. If it were all that easy, someone would have done it already. These threads sound more like poorly-directed frustration.
We need to fight pointless sloganeering!
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wanted man is right. how many threads do we already have about islam? they all come to the same conclusion: 1)fundamentalism is bad, 2)the thoughts of the prophets are ok and 3)religion tends to be oppressive (allthough it doesn't have to be so).we don't need to discuss this over and over again: all religions have these three elements.
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As someone else pointed out, so called militant Islam is a reaction to western imperialism. Sure it is reactionary in nature, however the main focus should be goign after the reason why movements like militant Islam exist in the first place.
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there are other, exstensive, threads devoted to this "topic", use the search function.
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