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And Marxian economics somehow escapes historical limitations?
Socialist economics, as well as Keyensian, evolves depending on circumstances because we know that not all economic conditions are the same, so the same standard cannot be applied. Austrian economics applies the same idea to all economic problems, ignoring problems that would arise if we had a completly lassie faire economy.

Keyensians at least see that there can be flaws in a capitalist economy that need to be corrected (even if they aren't so good at doing such).
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Why not tell us why you disagree with communism before asking to be restricted?

Don't be so closed minded.
Why, because he might be one of those Communist Austrian schoolers?
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The Miseans are such a joke. I put them in the same category as Objectivists.
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too late -- he's been restricted, hahahaha.

you voluntarists always understimate your commie big brothers.

Anarcho-Capitalism and Anarcho-Communism can only exist in the short-run in a free-society (a truly voluntary one).

If they stay together in the medium to long run -- restrictions will be made on new members and voluntarism would end.

In a free-society there would be all forms of anarchy practiced (as I said for short periods).

I might be an anarcho-cap when I exchange goods or services -- then it ends.

No anarchist society would have employees -- everyone would be a sub-contractor (temporary worker).

I might be an anarcho-communist -- a temporary union to renogiate (as a group) our contracts on a certain job -- that union would disolve as soon as the goal was reached.

Any "groupist" activity in the long-run would require leaders and welfarism to support (taxation or forced contribution).
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Welcome, Kaju. I utterly and absolutely despise everything you stand for, I believe Mises, Hayek and the rest of your idols were pseudo-intellectual buffoons who did untold harm to the science of economics, I believe the Austrian School is the intellectual equivalent of a bloated cancer, and I think the world would be greatly improved if every single member of this gathering of libertarian excrement were to die painfully in a blazing inferno.

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Welcome, Kaju. I utterly and absolutely despise everything you stand for, I believe Mises, Hayek and the rest of your idols were pseudo-intellectual buffoons who did untold harm to the science of economics, I believe the Austrian School is the intellectual equivalent of a bloated cancer, and I think the world would be greatly improved if every single member of this gathering of libertarian excrement were to die painfully in a blazing inferno.

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Thank you for making us aware of your prescence, but since this isn't a debate thread I'm going to go ahead and close it.
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