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i have a question about us leftists!
are we enemies of the state or idealist bourgeosie? NOFX SONG-MARXIST BROTHERS
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<span style=\'color:red\'>I am not a liberator. Liberators do not exist. The people liberate themselves. </span>- Ernesto "Che" Guevara <span style=\'color:red\'> “If you tremble indignation at every injustice, then you are a comrade of mine.”</span>- Ernesto "Che" Guevara <span style=\'color:red\'>A revolution is a struggle to the death between the future and the past.</span> -Fidel Castro <span style=\'color:red\'>Violence, comrade, is not the answer to our struggles. Revolution is!</span> |
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idealist bourgeosie ofcourse! ...
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ο λαός θα πεί την τελευταία λέξη - αυτές οι νύχτες είναι του αλέξη! Freedom without equality is privilege - Equality without freedom is a barracks 'Engels, my brother from another class, we haz got to get fucked up on the grog, and then revolt...if the lessons of the Paris Commune has taught as such, the working class cannot lay hold of the ready made bourgeoisie alcohol, they must smash it, and get pissed on cheap methylated spirits. holler, marxy.' - BCBM=AndreasBaader |
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"Love Other Human Beings like you would Yourself" -- Ho Chi Minh "We Don't Care who gets elected, because whoever it is will be Overthrown" -- Subcomandante Marcos |
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Moved.
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"The modern proletariat comes out of historical tests differently. Its tasks and its errors are both gigantic: no prescription, no schema valid for every case, no infallible leader to show it the path to follow. Historical experience is its only school mistress. Its thorny way to self-emancipation is paved not only with immeasurable suffering but also with countless errors. The aim of its journey – its emancipation depends on this – is whether the proletariat can learn from its own errors. Self-criticism, remorseless, cruel, and going to the core of things is the life’s breath and light of the proletarian movement." - Rosa Luxemburg, Junius Pamphlet |
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I am against both the state and the capitalists. I am against all ruling classes, whether you call them the bourgeois or call them the vanguard. Anarchists oppose the state because it is an oppressive hierarchical structure. It uses coercion constantly against both its own citizens and those of other states (if it could). Anarchists oppose capitalism because it is an economic system that encourages wealth accumulation, destruction of the environment, it is hierarchical. Wealth is another form of power. Anarchists are against power and wish to eliminate it from human interactions, we wish to bring about a equal society and a free society.
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"I am here by the will of the people and I won't leave until I get my raincoat back." - Anarchist slogan from Richard Kadrey's Metrophage "Freedom-I won't!" - Anarchist slogan from Eric Frank Russell's And Then There Were None I'm no longer here. But I came back to post about the CC. You can leave a visitor message if you want. I'll prob. see it. Fight hypocrisy/stupidity/cronyism/double standards/etc. in the CC. Bring back the CC. |
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an equal society ... do you believe in momentary transition to it? Free society ... "Freedom is realized necessity" (marxist sentence but translated by electronic translater). What do you mean 'Free society'
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"Crowned heads, wealth and privilege may well tremble should ever. again the Black and Red unite" -Otto Von Bismark, upon hearing of the split in the First International National Shop Stewards Network - IWW UK - National Organisation of Residents Associations - L&S |
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when i say bourgeosie i dont mean marx's bourgeosie
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<span style=\'color:red\'>I am not a liberator. Liberators do not exist. The people liberate themselves. </span>- Ernesto "Che" Guevara <span style=\'color:red\'> “If you tremble indignation at every injustice, then you are a comrade of mine.”</span>- Ernesto "Che" Guevara <span style=\'color:red\'>A revolution is a struggle to the death between the future and the past.</span> -Fidel Castro <span style=\'color:red\'>Violence, comrade, is not the answer to our struggles. Revolution is!</span> |
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apathy maybe question
i believe in social anrchism but idont understand the other branches i think marxist communism is better than capitalism though but just call me and anrchist/commie if either one was to happen i wouldn't give a crap both wouldmake me happy and allow me to do want i want to do in life and that's what important tome thats would should be to everyone people really should not have their government do something to them that wouldn't in general happen to them if their was no government
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<span style=\'color:red\'>I am not a liberator. Liberators do not exist. The people liberate themselves. </span>- Ernesto "Che" Guevara <span style=\'color:red\'> “If you tremble indignation at every injustice, then you are a comrade of mine.”</span>- Ernesto "Che" Guevara <span style=\'color:red\'>A revolution is a struggle to the death between the future and the past.</span> -Fidel Castro <span style=\'color:red\'>Violence, comrade, is not the answer to our struggles. Revolution is!</span> |
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"Why should workers agree to be slaves in a basically authoritarian structure? They should have control over it themselves. Why shouldn't communities have a dominant voice in running the institutions that affect their lives?" Noam Chomsky "Government is the shadow cast by business over society." John Dewey RIP Ian Tomlinson (victim of UK police brutality) |
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even though i would much rather support a communist revolution if an anarchist one came around i would support it just as much. i mean the end goal of marxism is pretty much anarchism. so even though i think we need to a revolutionary government to pick apart capitalism, turn into socialism and then eventually turn into high communism i would actually be estatic if the anarchists proved me wrong.
actually the anarchists should play a vital role in any communist revolution. instead of trying to rip down the government they should work with it and constantly push for less and less government. as long as anarchists don't take up arms they would be a great help to a communist govt.
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