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Originally Posted by MarxSchmarx
Why do you suppose claims like these, at least in the first world, are always spearheaded by bolshevists, and moreover by rather stalinistic groups?
Anti-sectarianism is all well and good in the abstract, but needs to be based on concrete movements rather than opportunistic defenses of any old leftist regime/group that proclaims the mantle of anti-imperialism or anti-capitalism. When the purported alternatives to a liberal democracy, for example, are actually less conducive to our goals, leftists need the breathing room to call out comrades on it, not be stifled out of some arbitrary cry for "solidarity". For example, when Mugabe's regime sends in the army against striking miners and tortures communist journalists and the capitalist governments issue condemnations, we shouldn't all be expected to engage in public demonstrations supporting Mugabe's autocracy.
Our loyalties lie with the workers and downtrodden of the world. Not with the leftists of the world.
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I'm not saying that we shouldn't be able to dislike each other, take different stances on certain things and even different actions. I'm saying that we shouldn't boycott each other's ideas and parties, or refuse to listen to someone on the grounds of an individual being an Anarchist / Trotskyist / Stalinist / Whatever.
Also I'm saying that when two groups who typically hate each other for whatever reason have the same opinion on something, they should actually work together. For example, both Trotsky and Stalin had the same opinion about Finland becoming part of the USSR. Yet Trotskyists and Stalinists wouldn't cooperate in any way on this matter just because of damned sectarianism. This is what I'm getting at.
Anyway, this thread has nothing to do with any sort of debate, so please don't draw this out, create another thread to continue this if you'd like.