Comrades in this discution i want to hear from you who ruined the Soviet union in your eyes and tell me the reason why you said so and so.

Colonel Volgin

I'm sure that the ruin of USSR is the result of it's suffering a defeat in the cold war against the bourgeuis West.USSR has wistood the 70-years confrontation against the superior forses of nearly of the hole world.
I remember 1985,the year of starting of Gorbachov's "perestroyka"("restructuring") wich ended at 1991 by the USSR crush.I remember that the priority of socialism in the soviet society was high and that's why the policy directed against the socialism was driving under the false slogan "More socialism!".
P.S. I'm sorry I'll finish my post later.

dont worry comrade

Gorbachev, as far as I know. After a rally of unsuccessful changing attempts, along with the conservative hierachy, he has successfully ruined it. There are many Vietnamese articles about this, I will try my best to translate them to English for you guys! All of the articles come from a very trusted source: the newspaper of People's Police of Vietnam.

that is exellent comrade thank you.

Stalin corrupted it beond repair

Stalin made everthing go wrong even himself

I'll try to continue.
1.USSR was ruined not by the people but by the ruling top,by the betreyers who have came into power at 1985-1991.
2.The destroying was not chaotic,it was the well guided process.
3.After 1991 the soviet industry was not privatized,it was destroyed.Modern Russia is able only to sale gas and oil,it throuly depends on export and import.
These facts sayes that at 1991 there was nor the capuitalist restoration but the defeat of USSR after the cold war.

if only the CCCP won the cold war but hopefuly the people of all the Soviet republics will want it back that will take a few more years of failing capitalism though.

First of all, it is a myth that the Soviet Union "collapsed." It did not collapse, it was dissolved and transformed into what you see today.

The Communist State constructed in the Soviet Union built a society ably prepared to compete on a level footing with the most industrialised nations shortly after the Revolution of 1917 turned a backward medieval society into one in the front line of development in social, cultural, industrial, educational and intellectual terms. The country was instantly electrified and transported into a superpower. It also allowed record recovery after the devastation of total war on its territory, culminating with the space advances of Sputnik and the first man in space.

Citizens were guaranteed peace, work, pensions, excellent education, excellent healthcare, free public utilities and transportation and top quality leisure facilities for their free time, apart from basic foodstuffs and a moderate quantity of vodka.

Not only in Russia but also in the other Soviet Union members and allies, and also around the world, the Soviet Union worked tirelessly to promote independence from the yolk of colonialism and imperialism and provided a workable model as an alternative to capitalism.

Education was granted as a basic right to millions of people held down and back by colonialist imperialist tractices and standards of excellence were guaranteed across the developing world by Soviet technicians.

Meanwhile the USA and its minions were spending trillions of USD to sabotage the model, perpetrating acts of terrorism and murder.

The Communist model worked, and could have worked better, if it had not had to compete against a savage and unfair competition, but it worked.

Sure, there are one or two things that need to be introduced, such as a vector where human endeavour is rewarded but this is not to say the whole system does not work. It did.

Now, there came a moment in history when, as allowed in the Soviet Constitution, the members could dissolve the Union, and they did, because basically all the primary goals of the Soviet Union had been achieved.

It did not collapse or implode, it simply modified and developed into what we call the CIS today, with more independence among the states but still inter-dependence in many areas, and more and more areas.

Russians and Soviets from all members (except perhaps Balts) respect the Soviet Union and remember the magnificent contribution it made to their lives and those of millions around the globe.

So the USSR developed, it did not collapse, just as the Cold War was ended, not lost or won. That is another myth perpetrated by western corporate media.

Reminds when G.W. Bush went in and declared that the war in Iraq had been "won."

I believe our beloved Uncle Joe did it. But the idea of a Communist Russia betrayed Marx's idea of Feudalism to Capitalism to Communism. They went straight from Feudalism to Communism.

Well the People were sick of the Tzarist and didnt want to live another hell in Capitalism. so they just speed up the process and went to heaven quicker.

No! It was the traitor Yuri!

Lol epic win Ulster

By heaven I guess you mean what happened when Stalin killed any real Communists?

What? No. Don't you guys know that after we die we enter a red room where all other dead communists greet us? In that red room we all live in a perfect communist society!

Stalin, from what I know. Took dictator power in a state that was supposed to be working towards people's rule. Destroyed the union. From then on they had idiots for leaders until Gorbachev, in his infinite lazyness, let it fall apart. The only thing I can say for Gorbachev is Glasnost.

-PC

Камрад, котор вы фокусируете на его плохой стороне. сделайте вас что Сталин сделало хорошее в CCCP. Он увеличил экономию, сделанную жизнь более лучшая для женщин, после того как он сделан образованием более лучшим, сделанных им в superpower, ect. Сталин делало множество хорошего камрада вещей.

The poison was injected into the Soviet system by the Khruschevite revisionists who neutered the Soviet Union with the anti-Marxist theory of "Peaceful Co-Existence." This along with Khruschev's failure domestically with the maize crop and Virgin Lands campaign destroyed Soviet agriculture making it dependent on American imports. Brezhnev destroyed Soviet industry with deliberate stagnation that resulted from his lazy approach to the gangsterism and corruption that the Khruschevites recruited into the party after they eliminated the real Marxist-Leninists. The suicidally naive Gorbachev ended the vanguard role of the CPSU sealing the fate of the USSR

Basicly everyone after Stalin screwed up the CCCP just as bad as the last. The posion began with Revisionism and ended with the sad fall of the Soviet Union. Nika was a idiot, the nest one was a bigger idiot and finally the triator ended it all. "the Peace-ful Coexistence" thing disgraced many True Communists. Its really no wonder the Sino-Soviet Split happened.

I believe that the leaders after Stalin resorted to ever-increasing revisionism.
But Gorby, obviously, destroyed it.

gorby destroyed it so his nickname is Traitor.
Nika did foolish things so his nickname is the Idiot
Brezhnev destroyed industry so his nick name is Proletarian killer.

Basicly the 3 after Stalin were the worst leaders for the CCCP.

Andropov? :-(

Andropov?

I said 3 after Stalin as in Nika,Brezhnev , and Gorby. I never said Andropov.

Right, I added that lol

I used to think Andropov was different from the other revisionists until I read Hoxha's account of his interactions with Andropov. Hoxha describes Andropov as a Russian chauvinist who saw the Warsaw Pact as Russia's personal empire and the communist ideal as the smokescreen for Russian imperialism recast. We should also not forget that Gorbachev was Andropov's protege, so that proved to be poor judgment. I used to be a part of the cult of personality of Andropov, but Hoxha's account corrected me.

Hmm maybe your right.

Lenin was the only good leader.