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Say, hypothetically, I would be going to the protests there.
Say, hypothetically, it would be my first time on a demonstration of that scale. How likely is one to get hurt, in what ways, and how to prevent/heal it? Thank you^^;; It's fucking stupid, I finally get the chance to show up at something like this, I'm getting stagefright..... Not cool at all....
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depends what actions you join, i asume you go for the more radical stuff, climate-justice actions you should be quite safe, nevertrustacop actions seem to be a bit more confrontative.
luckily for you police tactics in denmark seem to be quite similair to dutch ones (the dutch and danish riotpolice work a lot together, they are even going to borrow dutch riotvans again) so at least you wont be dropped in completly unknow terratory. on represion during cop15: http://nevertrustacop.org/Main/AntiRepression & http://www.blackcross.dk/ on first aid/activist medical help: http://cop15firstaid.ucrony.net/
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Unfortunately (or fortunately), I'm not very familiar with dutch riot-police either. Only protest I've been at were completely without police interference, or the student's riots of 2007, in which the police did use more violence then was justifiable against kids of ages 12 to 17, but nowhere near the amount I expect in copenhague.....
I'm watching the movie Battle in Seattle right now.... which, obviously, isn't helping ^^;; Man, I'm fucking embarrassed, but I'm just scared ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
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If you get forced to the front of a crowd and the police are batoning it, put your fists up in front of your face so you can protect yourself from getting punched or batoned by the police, and make sure you don't lose your footing in crowd surges.
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Remember that when you stand united and strong in the face of danger with other comrades, your safety and ability to resist grows exponentially. Or so I imagine.
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![]() I know what you're saying though. Yes, stick together, and yes, doing well builds your confidence, but you need to have effective strategies of how to work as a team, etc.
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Are you planning going by yourself or as part of an affinity group?
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The dutch chapter of the International Socialist Tendency. I really wouldn't know wether they're part of a larger affinity group there, although they link to this site:
http://www.globalclimatecampaign.org/
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The Dutch IS aren't known for causing trouble. Their English counterparts even hand over troublemakers to the police themselves.
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Yeah, I imagine you'd probably be safe with the IS, although you can never be sure they won't just flip out and start randomly attacking people. Anyway, I've only experienced English police, who may be less brutal, but I'd say that it's usually possible to avoid them. There's no shame in running away if necessary, and remember that the people who get injured or arrested are only a tiny tiny minority of the people who turn up and get involved. If you're that scared, then just make sure to always stay in the middle of a crowd, since the cops can only baton the people who're nearest to them. And there's nothing wrong with being scared, before G20 or the smash EDO demo I've been on I was practically shitting myself. I survived both OK, tho. And bruises fade, but if you miss out on something you think is worthwhile because of nerves, you'll probably be angry with yourself for a lot longer. Hope at least some of that helps.
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Well, if you're scared, you'll probably have some adrenalin running through your body, so you'll be alert and usually you can see the signs when things start to go wrong, for example if all of a sudden there's a load of people going one way, and masked people going the other way, it should be pretty obvious where you want to be.
If the Danish police are anything like the dutch, you'll be alright, dutch cops are surprisingly chill
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hope to se your all in copenhagen
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![]() But you're right.... They only intervene against school-kids, as soon as something is a real threat (football holigans, climate-protesters etc,) they chicken out :P
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Let the Ungdomshuset experience be your guide. Some videos:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVJZWves5l4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iupbxsHGlAA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YnQBkOcmmFM |
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Can anybody help me with finding a sleeping place in Kopenhagen?
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Not true. But don't let facts get in the way of sectarian bullshit.
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Dunno. Try klimaattop@socialisme.nu
They offer busses and sleepingplaces for those who go with their busses, but perhaps they can help you with sleeping place as well.
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Seeing as you're from Belgium I'd suggest you contact the LSP for this. The CWI has an international mobilisation. You can also try to contact anarchists though, although I'm less sure about who to go to.
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I contacted Antifa Berlin, they have 4 buses going, but they're all full. I'm looking for an organisation like this, cause otherwise I have to look for everything on my own, since I'm going alone.
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