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9th November 2009, 03:47
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Class Struggle vs lifestylism/coops etc
I had found a set of articles debating this out as links on this site but I cant find them now. Does anyone has material that argues for struggle over the notion that we can build an alternative economy or some such thing.
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9th November 2009, 05:46
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Maybe you are referring to this:
Co-ops or conflicts? - libcom.org Bailouts or co-operatives? - Iain McKay Co-operatives and conflicts! - Iain McKay On co-ops, conflicts and straw men - libcom.org What are your thoughts on the matter, Gumby?
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9th November 2009, 16:23
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Well I know Bookchin abandoned Anarchism later in his life and was not the best example of a true revolutionary but his book: Social Anarchism or Lifestyle Anarchism is helpful for this subject.
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