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Database of questions for Open Network of Revolutionary Activists
Posted 1st April 2011 at 19:17 by Ben Seattle
Database of questions for the
Open Network of Revolutionary Activists
Hi folks,
In discussion with Anton on our blogs I have discovered several things of a practical nature. One of the most important practical things I have discovered--may be that as we make posts on various topics--it becomes more difficult for us to keep track of things. For example--where is the latest draft of our mission statement? What about the questions I asked Anton? He answered some...but how about the others? Where did I post them? Is Anton even aware of them? Etc.
The long-term solution to issues like this is software that fits our needs. We could create it ourselves (I have various ideas and may eventually work in this direction). But that is long term.
Using a wiki?
A shorter term solution might be a wiki. RevLeft has a wiki although I have not been able to figure out how to get permission to post to it. I also created a wiki a few years ago at this location:
http://mediaweapon.wetpaint.com/
The Wet Paint wiki is free but it is also crappy in various ways (for example: it is loaded with obnoxious ads--just a minute ago when I visited--there was a big, ugly ad for Trump for president).
As an experiment--I will use this post to list various questions I have asked Anton. I will label the questions as Qu-Ben-1 (for the first question) and Qu-Ben-2 (for the second question), etc. As Anton answers them, I will copy the answers here (at least for a while--if this experiment works).
Tables would also be useful. Wiki's allow you to use tables and that is good also. A table could list all questions by every activist who is part of our network together with the answers that everyone has given.
________________________________________
Qu-Ben-1
Source: Open Revolutionary Activists -- Report on March Meeting http://www.revleft.com/vb/blog.php?b=1446
there is a relatively simple way that we can help to keep our discussion and focus on the right topics.
Over the next several months, the topics we discuss should revolve around what we believe is best for:
(1) Our name
(2) A short mission statement
(3) A list of principles that represent who and what we are
We should make an effort to sort these out without any compromise--as if it were of great importance that we got these things right.
I believe that, if we focus in this way, that we will automatically, so to speak, tend to focus on the most important topics.
Do you agree with this?
Anton's answer:
(nothing so far)
________________________________________
Qu-Ben-2
Source: Open Revolutionary Activists -- Report on March Meeting http://www.revleft.com/vb/blog.php?b=1446
(1) The revolution to overthrow bourgeois rule
will represent the interest of (and eventually enjoy
the support of) the overwhelming majority of society
(2) Revolutionary work will require helping the masses
to break from the influence of the social strata (of
trade union bureaucrats, community "leaders", etc)
that is dependent on, is supported by and takes
direction from the bourgeoisie
(3) Revolutionary work will be centered on giving
the working class and oppressed confidence that
the working class can run society better than the
bourgeoisie. This will require (among other tasks)
wide-ranging and public discussion and debate
-- in particular about the need for the democratic rights
of speech and organization when the working class
runs society.
Do you agree with this?
Anton's answer:
As to your three assertions on revolution and revolutionary work:
1--(interest and overwhelming support...)--Yes
2--(bad social strata) and 3-- (working class run society better and confidence therein) are connected to each other.
Solutions will require both creating new revolutionary institutions and transforming many existing ones along with the basic orientation of their personnel.
Some factors include masses of workers and oppressed learning new skill sets and learning new ways of using skill sets we already have.
Society will need to move away from the Taylorist/Fordist-etc models of 'scientific management'-- this will involve new relation between science and society.
________________________________________
Qu-Ben-3
Source: We must focus on victory (reply to Anton) http://www.revleft.com/vb/blog.php?b=1469
I believe revolutionary work must revolve around helping the working class become conscious of its historic role and destiny: overthrowing bourgeois rule and creating a society of peace, abundance and genuine community.
Do you agree with the sentence above?
Anton's answer:
(nothing so far)
________________________________________
Qu-Ben-4
Source: Open Revolutionary Activists -- Report on March Meeting http://www.revleft.com/vb/blog.php?b=1446
One potential problem with having the phrase "open network" in our name is that this implies that we see ourselves as a relatively public, open, loose and informal network and believe that this is a form of organization that the movement needs at this time. Not everyone may agree with this.
This is my view. I will work to win others to this view.
Do you agree that:
(a) We should have "network" as part of the name of our group, and
(b) that form of organization that the movement needs at this time
.... is a relatively public, open, loose and informal network
Anton's answer:
(nothing so far)
What might a table of Questions and Answers look like?
Maybe something similar to this:
...
Open Network of Revolutionary Activists
Hi folks,
In discussion with Anton on our blogs I have discovered several things of a practical nature. One of the most important practical things I have discovered--may be that as we make posts on various topics--it becomes more difficult for us to keep track of things. For example--where is the latest draft of our mission statement? What about the questions I asked Anton? He answered some...but how about the others? Where did I post them? Is Anton even aware of them? Etc.
The long-term solution to issues like this is software that fits our needs. We could create it ourselves (I have various ideas and may eventually work in this direction). But that is long term.
Using a wiki?
A shorter term solution might be a wiki. RevLeft has a wiki although I have not been able to figure out how to get permission to post to it. I also created a wiki a few years ago at this location:
http://mediaweapon.wetpaint.com/
The Wet Paint wiki is free but it is also crappy in various ways (for example: it is loaded with obnoxious ads--just a minute ago when I visited--there was a big, ugly ad for Trump for president).
As an experiment--I will use this post to list various questions I have asked Anton. I will label the questions as Qu-Ben-1 (for the first question) and Qu-Ben-2 (for the second question), etc. As Anton answers them, I will copy the answers here (at least for a while--if this experiment works).
Tables would also be useful. Wiki's allow you to use tables and that is good also. A table could list all questions by every activist who is part of our network together with the answers that everyone has given.
________________________________________
Qu-Ben-1
Source: Open Revolutionary Activists -- Report on March Meeting http://www.revleft.com/vb/blog.php?b=1446
there is a relatively simple way that we can help to keep our discussion and focus on the right topics.
Over the next several months, the topics we discuss should revolve around what we believe is best for:
(1) Our name
(2) A short mission statement
(3) A list of principles that represent who and what we are
We should make an effort to sort these out without any compromise--as if it were of great importance that we got these things right.
I believe that, if we focus in this way, that we will automatically, so to speak, tend to focus on the most important topics.
Do you agree with this?
Anton's answer:
(nothing so far)
________________________________________
Qu-Ben-2
Source: Open Revolutionary Activists -- Report on March Meeting http://www.revleft.com/vb/blog.php?b=1446
(1) The revolution to overthrow bourgeois rule
will represent the interest of (and eventually enjoy
the support of) the overwhelming majority of society
(2) Revolutionary work will require helping the masses
to break from the influence of the social strata (of
trade union bureaucrats, community "leaders", etc)
that is dependent on, is supported by and takes
direction from the bourgeoisie
(3) Revolutionary work will be centered on giving
the working class and oppressed confidence that
the working class can run society better than the
bourgeoisie. This will require (among other tasks)
wide-ranging and public discussion and debate
-- in particular about the need for the democratic rights
of speech and organization when the working class
runs society.
Do you agree with this?
Anton's answer:
As to your three assertions on revolution and revolutionary work:
1--(interest and overwhelming support...)--Yes
2--(bad social strata) and 3-- (working class run society better and confidence therein) are connected to each other.
Solutions will require both creating new revolutionary institutions and transforming many existing ones along with the basic orientation of their personnel.
Some factors include masses of workers and oppressed learning new skill sets and learning new ways of using skill sets we already have.
Society will need to move away from the Taylorist/Fordist-etc models of 'scientific management'-- this will involve new relation between science and society.
________________________________________
Qu-Ben-3
Source: We must focus on victory (reply to Anton) http://www.revleft.com/vb/blog.php?b=1469
I believe revolutionary work must revolve around helping the working class become conscious of its historic role and destiny: overthrowing bourgeois rule and creating a society of peace, abundance and genuine community.
Do you agree with the sentence above?
Anton's answer:
(nothing so far)
________________________________________
Qu-Ben-4
Source: Open Revolutionary Activists -- Report on March Meeting http://www.revleft.com/vb/blog.php?b=1446
One potential problem with having the phrase "open network" in our name is that this implies that we see ourselves as a relatively public, open, loose and informal network and believe that this is a form of organization that the movement needs at this time. Not everyone may agree with this.
This is my view. I will work to win others to this view.
Do you agree that:
(a) We should have "network" as part of the name of our group, and
(b) that form of organization that the movement needs at this time
.... is a relatively public, open, loose and informal network
Anton's answer:
(nothing so far)
What might a table of Questions and Answers look like?
Maybe something similar to this:
...
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