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Old 17th September 2006, 15:49
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We all know that there has been long time propaganda against Castro and his regime in Cuba, but I have also noticed that due to the spread of the popularity of Che as an icon in fashion and poular culture there has also been a spread of propaganda against Che by neo-cons ect.

Take this anti Che website for example http://cheguevaralies.blogspot.com/

How much of this is true and how much of it is lies?
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Old 17th September 2006, 16:53
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well, about che it says. Che Guevara the racist, homopfobic and anti semmite,

That pretty much removes the reliability of the page and propaganda. Considering that Che was, during his life weary "close to men". During the revolution and seige of bolivia, he was around men, close 24/ making it unlikely that he was homophobic. Alsoe he was envolved in the liberation, of balck people, there were black people in the gurillia fighting alongside with Che. Alsoe che's politics completelt distances itselvfe with racism as it bases itselvf on equality among people. As for anti-semmite, that claim simply underlines the fact that this is nothing but rubbish from a extreme rightist site. As they are the ones claiming everybody not agreeing with them of beeing anti-semmite and terrorist.

What is true is that Che and he's men killed people.
Yes, of course they did. It was a revolution, the men were traitors, killers... during a time like the revolution we cant have people like that. they were trialed and shot or deported.

So i have one thing to say to you.
Viva Che!
Viva Castro!

Dont belive their petty lies. Its nothing but rubbish.
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Old 17th September 2006, 17:10
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There's a link to an anti-Chavez blog, it's really funny! :P

By the way, the blog writer underpins it with quotes from the biography. Is that reliable?
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Old 17th September 2006, 17:11
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Racist? He was surrounded by blacks in Congo. And if I recall correctly many of those in his campaign in Bolivia were coloured. Tuma, Chino Serapio, Aniceto and many others all look non-white.

Willy (a Bolivian) looked like he was Indian. Same with Raúl Quispaya Choque.

I think Che felt he had more important things to think about then skin complexion or appearance.
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Old 18th September 2006, 00:01
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You thought that was funny? You should have seen the "documentary" they gave on Channel 41. That was hilarious.

Che was not a racist. His comrades in the Congos were colored, his first wife was indigenous, he hated Hitler and Nazi-theory so I strongly doubt he was anti-semmetic. I agree with norwegian commie, don't believe the bullshit.
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Old 18th September 2006, 01:55
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Moved.
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Old 18th September 2006, 02:54
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Thanks for your feed back and I apologise for posting it in the wrong place.
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Old 18th September 2006, 03:24
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and I apologise for posting it in the wrong place
No problem, it's happened quite a bit since the Che subforum has been kinda hidden off.

Anyways, chances are that you'll find a thread very similar to this one in here. All you gotta do is search.
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Old 19th September 2006, 21:50
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i read this biography on him on the internet (sorry lost the link along time ago) and it described him as a "butcher of the cabana" where he reputedlty watched over the deaths of cuban christians in the cabana prison. :angry: :angry:

This of course was never proven, a legend spread around, but they state it as fact.
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It went on to describe him as a person who was "driven to revolution, in his own pervert, twisted way". :angry: That could be used in a encyclopedia as a perfect example of bias propaganda against the "beloved revolutionary of Communism" and whose picture (which is well known and seen around the world) is described as "the most famous picture in the 20th century"

:angry: This is slander at it's finest, never describing him as a hero to many, and a villain to some. He here is described and I quote (this really pissed me off, so i remember it) "the most hated cuban every born, second to castro" :angry: this is funny actually because he wasn't born in cuba!!!

He was born Argentinia!
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Old 12th December 2006, 01:05
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Yeah, we all know Pro-capitalist are fighting against Anti-capitalist. Can we edit that wikipedia bullshit?
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