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Old 25th August 2010, 17:19
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My ass after taking laxatives has better flow than he does.

And how does that second video prove he's not sexist? Not that I really care at all to be honest, cause he sucks ass and is brutally overhyped by leftists.

Also, I'm pretty sure there's been about 50 threads on this.
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So you're happy that a couple of interviews and a show fully excuses some of his lyrics?
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So you're happy that a couple of interviews and a show fully excuses some of his lyrics?
It clearly points out how he's against both sexism & homophobia. Are you really going to take the words spoken through MC language as them being true in what they say?
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Where is the logical conclusion there? Parliamentary speak and true opinion?

"We're not racist, Aghanistan was a mistake" Awwww okay then!
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Honestly, this guy is given way to much credence. Besides the fact that he's a shitty rapper, why the hell do people on here spend so much time debating whether he's sexist or homophobic? It's not like he's in the running to become the leader of some group or party or whatever, he's a musician, who gives a fuck? If you like his music, listen to it, and get your ears checked in the mean time, if you don't like it, don't listen to it, it doesn't really matter all that much from a musical standpoint what his politics are. I wish there could be just a fraction of the amount of attention paid to this guy given to some legitimately good musicians who happen to be leftists or at least leaning that way like MC5, Patti Smith, pretty much any 80s hardcore bands with some notable exceptions, Billy Bragg, Choking Victim and all the other c-squat bands. But really, it's music, I personally don't give a shit what the person or people creating it thinks about Proudhon's view on property or the potential of the lumpenproletariat.
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Crap? Yep!

I dont really see how this refutes his homophobia, he justs says he doesnt say "faggot" anymore. Not that he is geniunely opposed to homophobia, he could just stop saying it so he wouldnt face the criticism of people who call him out on it anymore.
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Who really cares, at least he's building orphanages and shit. He's more socially involved than most artists are and it's not like he's out committing hate crimes.
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The best lines in all his raps come from other rappers.

and he's still batshit insane:
"I know too much, the government is trying to murder me!"
"And you can't fathom the truth, so you don't hear me
You think illuminati's just a fuckin conspiracy theory?!"
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who the fuck cares if he's an asshole or not, i like the 3rd world album ok, it pumps me up
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Revolutionary volumes one and two are good, but I can't believe anyone would like The 3rd World. Although, lately, the more I listen to him, he does kind of bug me. The extremely short loops get to ya.
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Yeah, third world was shit. It just annoys me whenever I listen to him cause he has sexist and homophobic lyrics, whether he actually is or isn't.

The Coup and Dead Prez make him look fucking pathetic.
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I have all three albums and I like many of his songs, but he has said some sexist and homophobic things in his lyrics and in interviews. I pretty much know the lyrics of all his songs so here's some sexist/homophobic verses that come to mind.

Examples.
1. "Im not a massaginist I just like it when girls are massagin this..." - The Rebel

2. "Immortal Technique incinerate degenerate fags..." - Crossing the Boundary

3. "That's your girl, ***** get over here, give me some brain. I'll bust off on her face and right after the segment she'll probably rub it in her pussy trying to get herself pregnant..." - Obnoxious

Having said that, I do think he's changed quite a bit since the days of Vol.1 and 2. He's definitely a lot more articulate and less boorish now than he was in the past. Maybe he has changed? I don't know. If I met him, I'd definitely enquire about the lyrics I mentioned because those are simply unjustifiable.
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Who really cares, at least he's building orphanages and shit. He's more socially involved than most artists are and it's not like he's out committing hate crimes.
By this criteria, U2 are the veritable saints
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Yeah, third world was shit. It just annoys me whenever I listen to him cause he has sexist and homophobic lyrics, whether he actually is or isn't.

The Coup and Dead Prez make him look fucking pathetic.
'The 3rd World' and 'Open Your Eyes' are good tracks. I bump that shit.
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Crap? Yep!

I dont really see how this refutes his homophobia, he justs says he doesnt say "faggot" anymore. Not that he is geniunely opposed to homophobia, he could just stop saying it so he wouldnt face the criticism of people who call him out on it anymore.
Yeah you're right, he doesn't actually say he's opposed to homophobia.
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1. "Im not a massaginist I just like it when girls are massagin this..." - The Rebel
What's sexist about that again?
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What's sexist about that again?
Well look at the whole thing.

"But Im'a only pay for 1 night stay at the Ritz
I wont even get you a towel when I spray on your tits,
Im not a misogynist I just like it when gurls are
massagin this..."


Now call me old fashioned, but I think he's reducing women to the level of vulgar sex objects.

Or this gem from 'Crossing The Boundary'...

"I'll rape your moms and we can make this a personal issue..."

That's not nice...
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It's not supposed to be nice, that's the whole point of the line.
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my great grandmum could rap better than him...
...even without her dentures.

it doesn't matter if he's sexist, homophobic, or whatever else you wanna say if most of his raps suck ass. his lyrics aren't even decent.
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