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In my travels (chuckle, snort) I've discovered that there exists a large number of people in the United States who believe that in one way or another, 9/11 was engineered or allowed by the US government. This interests me quite a bit and I've come to support this assessment.
So the poll is self-explanatory. 1 - It was an inside job! Numerous reports, including one by Steven Jones, indicate that the only way in which three skyscrapers (one of which wasn't even hit by a plane) could have collapsed in such a manner is by controlled demolitions. Compare accidental partial collapses of large buildings with the complete and total destruction wrought on WTC 1, 2, and inparticular 7; they all show the telltail signs of a controlled demolition. 2 - The "Pearl Harbour" paradigm! The US government had prior warning of the attack from dozens of sources but allowed them to happen, a strategic move they believed would give them a public excusal for an upsurge in imperialist activities. The invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq, increasing military aggression in dozens of countries to suppress dissidents, and a crack-down on domestic civil liberties. 3 - Intelligence failure!! Failuire to prevent the attacks lies in gross incompetance on the part of US intelligence -- but they're sure as hell capitalized on the aftermath of the attacks. Last edited by RNK; 1st March 2008 at 16:59. |
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I'd also say 2 or 3... there's really little doubt in my mind the government knew about it in some form before it happened, whether they let it happen on purpose or just failed to prevent it is up in the air for me. I do not believe it was an "inside-job."
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I voted 2.
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Psy> It's actually very little to do with the time it took them to react. Originally they had no inclination to even investigate what occured. The evidence from the WTC was hurriedly cleaned up (they did not bother to investigate it thoroughly at all, unlike all other like attacks which they spent months investigating). It took pressure from certain sectors of congress and the victims' families for them to actually open up a wide-spread investigation (which Bush limited to only matters of intelligence).
The government has refused to release any of the dozen or so pieces of footage showing the plane crash into the Pentagon, leading many to believe it was a missile and not an aircraft that hit it. The government has been trying to stop and stall the investigation since the day it happened. |
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Wow... just wow.
3 p.s.: I also believe Oswald was the sole assassin.
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I voted for 3, as it is the least crazed option. But in my opinion, the real issue is missing:
4. That's what you get when you mess with too much people at the same time, making more enemies than you are able to deal with. Luís Henrique |
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I want to change my vote to 4
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There Is No 4, There Is Only 3.
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I think it far fetched that the US had the most humiliating failure of air defence in history without the branches of the US military blaming each other to save their own skin. Again we are talking a large slow moving object heading toward the capital for half an hour after the two planes hit the WTC.
If US air defence was really that bad then any world power could have easily decapitated the US by air dropping a large attack force to take the capital. As with such pathetic response times, by the time the US military was a threat to troop planes they would be empty and heading back. Last edited by Psy; 1st March 2008 at 22:54. |
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3. Think about it logically... the US government can't manage to kill the leader of a third-world country 90 miles from its shores, but they can pull off what would have to be the biggest conspiracy in modern history without a single leak? Pfft, yeah right.
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Really, who did it, or who let it happen is irrelevant. What is important is to understand what this was. An excuse to go into the Middle-East, to wreak havoc and to return with oil in return for their "democratization". A bloody capitalist sham...
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You know what I think?? I think it was a mad mess. I think it's something that I'm sick of and something that I think that everybody should just get over.
It was a media trial of Osama Bin Laden, who isn't an American citizen, so technically he has zero rights, so that was legal. In fact, I bet there was nothing illegal that really happened on 9/11. What if it was all a mistake by pilots?? I mean, there was never any serious investigation into it, and since that day the media has been chaotic and mass confusion has reigned. It gives me a headache just thinking about it, and I thought people would shut up about a week afterwards. But no, they're still bitching about 8 years after. Jesus christ....
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definately #1
hitler did the same thing by burning the parliament and blaming the communists Nero a roman emperor burned rome and blamed the christians and zeitgeist proves that #1 is the truth! |
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Well i havent seen Zeitgeist but i still agree wih you comrade. It is all in the name of profit. Lose a few billion one day, make a hundred times more in the future.
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then look up zeitgeist and watch the movie on their site
its worth ur time |
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what happened? #3
why did it happen? #4 (That's what you get when you mess with too much people at the same time, making more enemies than you are able to deal with.)
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Are we to assume the US Army couldn't in half an hour deploy SAMs to protect the capital from a large slow moving air liner with no counter measures? Are we to assume to the US Air Force couldn't intercept a slow moving air liner? That NORAD couldn't direct fighters large slow moving air liners? The official story was NORAD had no capabilities to track the planes and had to rely on the FAA for coordinates which is a lie NORAD has far better tracing capabilities then the FAA. Are we to assume it was normal for the Pentagon to simply let a airliner hit it? Think back to Korean liner that was shot down by the USSR, that is how modern militaries actually respond when threatened by slow moving airliners, it doesn't long for modern jet fighters that can move twice the speed of sound to intercept a airliner. |
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